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Tuning for ice?


trikerdad

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I like 3 side / 1 base on the hard stuff. Not that we see a whole lot if ice at Bachelor, but I seek it out when it's there so I can test myself on it. Bachelor ice is usually of the scraped off, windblown variety, rather than frozen cord, and only found on a few runs that are both wind-exposed and groomed right after closing. No detune to speak of.

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I run 1* edge and 1* base..... Keep them ultra sharp with a fine grade stone

I also detune my nose about 50mm... very slightly

and my tail about 20mm also very slightly...

The detuning is probably more psychological as it's hard to see with a naked eye......

I'm far from a pro carver....

For ice is your edges Have to be sharp!!!!!

I find that once you get your angles right touching them up with a stone keeps them sharp for ages.....

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I do a .5 degree on the base and (get ready for this) 3 degrees from the nose to my front binding, 2.5 degrees between the bindings, and 3 degrees from my rear binding back. Very very slight detune (maybe like...1 pass with a mill) on the nose about 2cm right on the shoulder of the nose. No detune on the tail. Hooks up great on boilerplate. The only disadvantage is that the sharper your edges are, the more fragile the sharpness is. Kinda like a knife...the sharper it is, the easier it is to fold the edge or chip it. It's a tradeoff, but as long as you give due dilligence to your board, no problems should be had.

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Comon, there has to be more opinions than that out there. What about deturning the tip and tail, good or bad for ice?

My Northeast ice tuning...

I detune tip and tail 1" starting at the contact points and moving inward. No problems hooking up at all - and for racing, it allows better recovery from late lines and other undesirable positions. I detune a half inch further on a race course with really soft snow

All my race boards have 3 degree side - SL boards have 1 degree base for quicker/easier edge to edge and GS boards have 0 degree under the feet tapering to .5 degree front and back of the feet.

Bump/AM board has 2 degree side and 1 degree base - pow and freestyle rides are 1/1.

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In western NY we get ice - understatement. Local hills use a Zamboni instead of grooming machines.

Since the physics of skiing and snowboarding is similar (what the board/ski needs to do to initiate, carve, release, etc.) I offer my race tunes which I free ski on as well. I use the SL tune on my board and it seems to work well on ice.

For convenience I always maintain a 1* base edge, this allows me to go to the local shop ant get the base structured without them wrecking my base edge or my edge trashing their stone.

SL: 3* side, GS, SG*: 2*

On all skis I never detune. If I need shorter or stiffer skis I should have purchaced them. Detuning inhibits the shovel from initiating and the tails ability to finish the turn and translate the energy stored in the arced ski into speed.

To keep the edges sharp I simply use a diamond stone to freshen up the tune. To ensure that I cover the entire edge I color the edge with a Sharpie and polish until all of the marker is gone.

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For convenience I always maintain a 1* base edge, this allows me to go to the local shop ant get the base structured without them wrecking my base edge or my edge trashing their stone.

Ditto... I don't want to spend too long re-polishing the base edge after a structure.

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