The Great BOL Weight-loss Challenge

[bartron]

You can read all the books and journals you want, but they are simply trying to sell something.

That depends on the author and their interests. The authors of the ones I've read don't sell any nutrition product or services, they teach at universities, they appear to be independent of each other and the professional dietitians that I've talked to concur with the principles they preach.

If you're talking about the crap you see in bodybuilding mags, then I agree with you 100%.

Talk to a specialist who works with world class athletes for the "real" answer. The diet above is coming from an agreement of the Midwest natural bodybuilding champ and an Ironman champ. Of course, the Ironman champ wants me to eat more, but I want to lose more weight.

Bodybuilders are known for having some of the worst calcium deficiencies of all athletes, as a result of their excessively high protein intake. This is because your calcium intake must be proportional to your protein intake.

Just because a someone has achieved a certain result, it doesn't mean they achieved it using the best, safest, easiest or most efficient method. I used to have a high-protein diet, following the traditional bodybuilding principles. After reading a couple of recent books and seeing a professional dietitian, I was able to maintain my muscle mass and reduce my fat by cutting down on protein and increasing my carbs.

The fast/slow twitch was not about the actual muscles as much at it was about the actual FUEL needed for workouts.

I believe what you mean is anaerobic/aerobic, correct ? I agree, the diets for those two types of exercise are different, but I wouldn't say drastically so.

This wasn't meant to critique my diet/workout as much as it was to get others to think about how to get into the best carving shape and enjoy the upcoming season.

That was my interpretation. However, if you stick your neck out... :)

...I will say without ANY doubt, that "getting ripped" is easiest with a very high protein diet and lots of weights rather than endless hours of cardio.

I'm with Skatha on this one. You only need enough protein to allow your muscles to recover and grow the amount that wants to as a result of your training. As Skatha says, your body will try to use the rest as energy. But, your body has a harder time converting protein to glucose than it does converting carbs to glucose. High-protein diets also increase your body's water requirements.

My meager credentials: total amateur. I'm currently working on my personal trainer certification; I've read tons of books and articles written by doctors and nutritionists over the past 15 years and trained for mass for about 10 of those years; received counselling and planning services from a professional dietitian who works with athletes and in clinics; and talked with another with a bachelors degree in nutrition. Like I said, total amateur, so go ahead and flame me. :)

'later...

[Kent]

In virtually every sport, there is a gap between innovators and scientists. Bodybuilding is certainly one of then. Cycling is definately another.

Results are results. Period.

Judging from the responses so far, we're not talking about world champion nutrition, we are talking about having a balanced meal with reduced caloric intake comprised of healthy food. For some, this is a radical change...others it may be incremental.

I'll dig in the closet to find a gift for the winner and maybe some rules. Anybody want a Sims Buner 188?

K

[Mike T]

I'll dig in the closet to find a gift for the winner and maybe some rules. Anybody want a Sims Buner 188?

If that's the prize, I'll join in - I'd ideally drop from 198 to 180. Primary training will be cycling plus weights once or twice a week.

Interesting that in terms of diets, nobody's mentioned eating large amounts of leafy greens. Every time I've wanted to lose weight, eating a large salad every day with a dressing of mostly vinegar with a little olive oil, have been very helpful. It's an amazing method for controlling dinner portions - fill up with leafy greens and you won't be able toi fit much else in!

[Gleb]

reading the responses reminds me of my friend EJ. He joined my wrestling team in his senior year. During preseason lifting, he was tipping the scale at 210 lbs. By the time the season started he was 200. 10 weeks later, 160. He stopped eating crap and started eating healthy and with a wrestling workout that could burn 600 calories easily, he lost all that weight.

During my wrestling days, I could eat more than almost 4000 kcal a day and still managed to lose tons of weight.

although when the season ended, I kept eating like that for a bit and...well lets say I won the pig award two out of my three seasons. Its who gained the most weight between the end of the season and the banquet- 25 pounds :-)

I always pictured my metabolism as a huge boulder. It takes alot of energy (calories) to start the boulder rolling but to keep it rolling takes significantly less. By that I mean that to keep your metabolism going, you have to eat fruits and vegetables (prefferably veggies) through out the day to keep the metabolism rollin along. I believe kent or someone mentioned something of the same already, not sure, maybe I'm retarded.

I reccommend runing or skating. Keep in mind, to make something a habit, you gotta do it for at least two weeks. Eat healthy!

Good luck to all!!

[7stg]

Currently my work out regimen consists of the express zone at 24 hr fitness plus a few more exercises for my legs mon, tues, thurs, and fri, and a trail that I walk at lunch at work 5 days a week that takes about 30 min. I also have the goal of getting all but one of my CPCU tests done before the snow starts and the last test done some time around of the first of the year. This definitely keeps me busy but I am on tract to attain my goals. hallelujah!!<o></o>

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[dantheman0177]

OK, I'm in the go.

Monday 24/7. Weight 103 kg

Monday 31/7. Weight 100 kg

Current weight (Friday 4/8) 98.5kg

I've increased the exercise regime and cut down on the food intake dramatically. I'm also using meal replacement protien shakes for breakfast and lunch and that has helped a lot. Aim is to get to about 85kg by the end of September / start of October. Not sure I will do it, but I'll try.

[dantheman0177]

I'll dig in the closet to find a gift for the winner and maybe some rules. Anybody want a Sims Buner 188?

K

So what are the rules and what is the time frame?

Regardless, I'm in.

[wvrocks]

I'm in too. 8-4, 30yrs old, 6'3" and 260 lbs. I've been within about 10lbs of that since my my junior year in high school. My wife has been racing triathlons this year and I've started training with her. I'd like to get down around 220 eventually. She's a good motivator, she lost 80lbs herself over the last 3 years.

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[Galen]

4 weeks, down 8lbs. Biking 2-3 times a week and gym climbing 2-3 times a week. No big secret to the diet, just laying off the saturated fats, soda pop, chips, red meat and CHOCOLATE MARBLE CHEESE CAKE!! :lol:

[patmoore]

My plan is to switch from Big Stuff to regular Oreos....

Actually I'm already down from 181 lb to 169.

I've discovered that ten miles on the unicycle is good for an instant 3 pound loss.

[Neil Gendzwill]

I've discovered that ten miles on the unicycle is good for an instant 3 pound loss.

Pretty much all water. Guesstimating that it takes you an hour to do that, you're probably not losing more than 1/3 of a pound permanently (assuming you don't scarf back extra goodies as a reward for the ride).

[Gleb]

exactly what I assume aswell. For wrestling, I easily lost 10 pounds in a 12 hour period, all from sweat and all resulting from running with a sweatshirt on. I sweat alot so it wasnt too hard. All I had to do was start sweating and then just continue moving at a moderate rate to keep the sweat up. I miss those days :(

[dantheman0177]

Well I have discovered a minor problem.

Bad news: I haven't actually lost any more weight since last report.

Good news: Working in the gym is actually putting on muscle again and toning up, so I am looking a lot better.

It's a good start so far.

Oh, and eating less is cool too. My stomach must have shrunk because it is now two days in a row that I couldn't finish my dinner, and that is saying something.

[wvrocks]

I have lost maybe a pound or two but I feel much better since I started exercising everyday. I have more energy during the day and have no problems sleeping.

On a related note. I finished my first triathlon this past Sunday. It was a

short distance sprint tri but it was a start. Think I'm hooked now.

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[Mike T]

Belly is tightening but no actual weight loss. I look better so I'll take it!

[Justin A.]

280 down to 262 since I started biking again. Im not happy with the results though, before my fatness was proportional so I didn't LOOK like it, but now Im all out of proportion so now I look fatter than I am anymore. Whatever, Im getting there.

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[Galen]

8 weeks, down 14 lbs. lbs, coming off slower, I think the 80-100+ miles biking and climbing gym are giving me some gain in musles mass. Blew my diet/exercise the past week, a little nasty to go riding, lots of ribs, thai food, fried chiken, soda pop and chips! :lol: :lol: :o

[fishrising]

I'm in too...

Purchased a new road bicycle to ride at lunch during work.

06/22/06: bought bike - weight: 275 lbs.

3 months later, riding 16+ miles, 2 sometimes 3 times a week...with several weeks missed due to vacations, and too much work...

09/21/06:weight: 253 lbs. which I have now been at for a month. Time to work harder I guess to drop a few more.

No diet change other than eating everything I used to eat, just now in moderation, and a little wiser on a choices...

[BoarderYUL]

There's no secret in loosing weight. Exercise, exercise, a good diet and loooots of water !

I was almost 240 pounds 2-3 years ago and then decided to go to the gym and go outside more often (hiking, rollerblades, swimming)

It's a long processs, I know, but everything is possible. I'm now 190-195 (6'5 tall) and I've been maintaining my weight for the last 12 months.

Go Go Go I'm all with you !!!