skatha is right it does have bad karma(kind of for me) If i were you i would hold off on the canyons( i dont know about the other park city area resorts) for a year or tow becuase they are adding lifts becuase it its such a pain to get to the other side of the mountain. I love love love vail! Summit county(Keystone,breck,A-basin are one ticket copper is seprate) has good beginer carve runs like no other place.