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I will have to look at the Full Tilts at some point, I do have step-ins so I would have to convert the bindings over, with the 5 position forward lean, I find the boots now, OK in stiffness, just would rather a more bottomless feeling for the end range of motion.

yes I sold them, did not really think about the springs, I wondered if I could get that much heavier than the red anyway. the red are a bit thicker than blue, and there is not near as much space for preload in the spring until it is almost binding, I think maybe a shorter spring would work but would have to be way way stronger. the red were still too soft for how I want it to feel, I almost ran out of threads on the top screw. I think for now, the Cant may work the best.

in freeride mode, the range at number 1 is still too far. I called it powder mode in my original post. I am using a 3 degree cant disk in the back, and it is pretty much all heel lift, so the 6 may help me some more. I have the BP versions, how much higher at the high end is a 6 degree vs 3 degree? I know its double the degrees, but does that mean its double the height? if so, that would definitely help a lot I think.

I had done pretty much just that. Even with the springs really compressed the forward range was still too much. I had the bottom screw all the way down and the top really tightened. Range of motion was still too great though. That's why I was wondering about urethane or something I did not think about stiffer springs or where to source.

I have Deeluxe track 700s, the newest model. I tried BTS but it was not stiff enough and allowed for too far a range of motion forward. I tried Blue and then Red springs. Using the 5 position forward lean mechanism, I ride with them on 3, I would like a little further range of motion for them, but going to 1, ie using powder mode, is too far forward. I have a shorter range of motion in my foot/ankle. If I am standing flat on ground, and bend my knee forward, like towards the front of my foot, my heel would start to lift sooner than others. At 1 on the 5 position forward lean mechanism, which is most forward lean, I get the sensation of heel lift, and if I tighten the boot enough to counter that, I will have bad foot pain. I am not sure if other boots would be better, but I tried on RC-10’s and they were way too low volume for me, not even close… I have not looked into the Head Stratos Pro’s at all, as they are no longer made, I just wanted to stick with something that will be around for a bit it seems. I have worked with a bootfitter, and where I am is fine right now, boots feel great, just wondering if anything would allow for a more bottomless feel, more like a freestyle ski boot. I tried on some ski boots last year, and they were probably stiffer than the track 700s by a little, but they felt like if I was stronger or heavier, I could have bent them further forward. The bootfitter is 2 hrs away, so it is kind of tough to go back and forth to work on certain things through the season like this. Anyone have anything very specific they can tell me to do for the track 700’s right now? I sold the BTS kit I had, I was thinking about urethane with varying durometer ratings to limit travel, on a BTS or similar hardware, I am not sure if they would just be too stiff though? And if softer or more compressible, I am not sure if I would need something to help the boot back to original forward lean position. Basically due to my ranges of motion, I need a fairly short range of motion, but a little longer than I have now, with less of a stopping point. I can maybe try to ride the back boot at lean position 2, and see if that will work for what I need or want to do, it’s the back leg that has been giving me more trouble. Thanks in advance.

the Driver X boots will work with the Calibers fine, Malamutes worked better for me. but I did not like the Calibers that much, they were not that stiff, and i noticed that they flexed a bit, and the base plates could be twisted or bent pretty easily. they were 10-11 models, I am not sure what this years are like.

I am looking for a metal all mountain board at least a 170 probably a bit longer 22-23 cm waist I weigh 220 btw. Let me know if you have anything I may be interested in thanks in advance

BTS and blue springs are sold pending funds

to Beckman AG, I agree that skiing can be easily picked up, I can go throw on a pair of skis anytime, and have some fun and make turns, I just figured it would take awhile for me to get where I was on a snowboard if that makes sense. I think there have been a lot of good points overall on this thread.

I have a Prior BX 68 that is in very good condition, I bought it last year, and after getting into hard boots, just do not think I have much use for it. I would like to trade for a metal all mountain board, probably a waist 22-23, at least 170, maybe a little longer. I weigh 225, this Prior is stock, but for the hard boot board, that may make a difference. Let me know what you have or think. I am also open to selling it outright, but I would like to see what this brings, as I do not need to get rid of it, and not sure what it is truly worth. thanks in advance.

for sale is Burton Driver X Boots size 27.5, 9.5 Used but in very good shape $75 shipped to lower 48

BTS with Blue and Red Springs For sale is a BTS with blue and red springs used for 5 hours probably. The red springs have not been used snowboarding, but I made the mistake of mounting them, so I cannot return them. The blue springs have some of the powder coat missing in a few places, the red have a nick in the powder coat also. I am selling because they just did not work for me. Paypal is acceptable, buyer pays fees if not using gift, I will also accept a money order. $105 shipped to lower 48 with both springs. $30 shipped for each spring set, $80 shipped for BTS with one set of springs. I prefer to keep one set of springs with the system Thanks,

I wanted to share some thoughts on this whole thing…. Skiing vs Snowboarding… First, I think skis are much easier to learn on, I started skiing at 3 and skied on and off till 9, then started riding and have been since, I am now 28, even though I do not regularly ski and may go years between times, but I can throw skis on and go have some fun and make it down whatever I need to around here, I can’t say the same for most I have seen try snowboarding, I did not really get it until my 3rd day riding. I think skis are gaining popularity again somewhat due to how diverse skis and skiing can be, they are also much more versatile. Freestyle skiers are going bigger and doing more than the snowboarders now, that has to help for a certain crowd. Also, moguls probably appeal to some, I know you can ride moguls on a snowboard, but not at all like you can on skis. Probably 4-5 years ago at our home mountain, a bunch of kids switched from boards to twin tip skis, and on first few days were doing 3’s in the park, and I noticed a lot of other new skiers doing the same, we do not seem to be getting as many new riders around here. (Northeastern PA) I feel skis are faster, more stable, and better suited for a more natural movement of you acting as a suspension and soaking up variations or bumps in snow. They are also much better for traverses, or even when dropping cliffs or starting out in a chute or something similar, you can get much more speed if necessary and be in more control within a shorter distance, you can go straight rather than have to turn and go.. I have thought about skiing, but I did not want to buy a whole new set of equipment and be a beginner/intermediate again, and take away from snowboarding. I also did not like my knees being separate on skis after being on a snowboard for so long. I went to ECES last year, and got into hardbooting. I was riding soft boots in the same manner, and pretty much not going in the park, and even if I was, I was mainly doing straight airs anyway. I am not sure if I caught on fairly quickly, or if I just rode similarly with soft boots and was already carving, so it just carried over a bit. I like riding hard boots/carving, and am getting better, even though I have really not ridden all that much yet. Over the weekend, I was at Killington, Sugarbush, and Stratton. At Killington, I did not see anyone else on hardboots, or even riding soft boots aggressively, really at any of the mountains for that matter. I got a ton of questions though, on what everything was, and what it was for, I got a lot of funny looks when I explained, and a few people did not know what carving was at all, and just did not get why it would be better for anything than soft boots. At Sugarbush, I got a few questions, and some lift attendants said it was cool, etc, again no other hardbooters. At Stratton, I got questions from one person, who already knew what it was, and was complaining about all the new freestyle boards, he said he used to race BX and was looking to get a probably metal board for soft boots, but no one said anything other than him. I saw one other hard boot board on the rack at the lodge, other than that nothing. I realize it was a holiday weekend, and I may not find carvers, but to not see any probably tells you something. A lot of people even friends have sort of said what is the point if you’re not in soft boots, and I can see their point. As, I have said I feel skis are probably better at many things, but I did not want to essentially start over again. Soft boots are pretty comfortable, if you wear hard boots then get into soft boots. As far as barriers to entry with hard boots and carving, there needs to be more demos, even individuals with extra gear with a sign at the mountain would help. Without ECES last year, I would not have gotten into hard boots. This website is a great resource, but most people do not know about it, and a lot of people do not want to be bothered with forums anyway. Also, it is expensive, it’s not a lot more than a very high end soft boot board with high end soft boots and bindings, but it is still more, most riders are buying the cheaper board and bindings and boots though, so the cost is way higher with them. I feel that most riders now, do not seem ride at a higher performance level, I had a friend I used to ride with, that in soft boots, would push the teeth into the ratchet as far as he could, and then once it stopped click the ratchet once or twice, and call it good, if I did that, I would feel like I had barely any control in soft boots. Another thing, I had to go to a bootfitter, and now have quite a bit of money into my boots, because we only have 2 or 3 choices for boots, with ski boots, you have so many choices with different widths and companies have a different foot shape. I do not think snowboarding is going anywhere, I just do not think it is growing like it was, and I wonder about alpine as people get older and such, as others have mentioned. Winter sports in general are very expensive, anyone have any numbers on overall numbers for winter sports or new participants? My area locally is not a good place to take a sample, as we have never been a real big winter sports area, due to lack of snow and the money aspect.

not to get too far off subject, what angles do you run with this set up? I have a Prior BX that I thought worked well in eastern pow/crud, and may try it with HB for that purpose. thanks,

HAHA, I could sell it to you, its older, but just adding a few components together, selling separate, I would easily get what I need out of it.

is there any reason you do not want to step out of the binding? plates are very easy to get in and out of, especially step-ins. I fooled with polls a little from skier friends on some slightly uphill traverses, in soft boots, which is much more time consuming, I thought it was easier to just take a foot out.

Sold, Thanks Steve sent you an email for shipping info.

for sale is a TD3 2nd board kit, used for a few hours on 2 days. I had posted these for sale or trade before, but then I did not think I would end up with a plate this year, but I did, so now they are for sale again. Included is: (2) Blue Elastomers (2) 3 Degree Cants (2) 4x4 Discs (8) Screws $85 Shipped to lower 48, I will ship to Canada, but we would have to look at price or make a reasonable offer.

yes, the UPZ are very low profile, and the liner is very low profile also, not sure if you would have to upsize in the future if wanting to use a non-stock liner. but go to a bootfitter, it should be a pretty easy fix for them. your problem seems to be more straight forward, but I have learned that its not always what you would think causing a certain problem, at least in my case it wasn't. hopefully it works out for you, foot pain is very annoying, I cannot beleive I delt with it for so long, I did not know bootfitters existed until a year or 2 ago, but I was also in soft boots until this year.

go to a GOOD bootfitter and be done with it, any other issues you have can probably be resolved. once I went to a bootfitter my problems disappeared. after going, it is amazing all of the mins-information or bad information I have recieved from local shops or so called bootfitters locally and on the internet also. also, I had heel pain from just having UPZ RC-10's on in my house, from what I remember, the liner may have had some stiffer material in the heel which may also be causing it, digging into your heel more.

thanks for the responses, I forgot about Pink Bike when I was way more into it I sold some parts on there. I will also check out the Lehigh Valley one. It is a Specialized Demo 8

I wanted to see if anyone on here knew of anywhere to sell a Downhill bike, I have listed it on Ridemonkey.com and craigslist, some interest, but not that much. locally, there is not much of a market for them. at this point, I would like it gone for a reasonable price, I know what is a fair price for me and a buyer and I am willing to go a bit lower to sell it. any suggestions would be appreciated. thanks in advance.

I just started carving in hard boots the very end of last year, I went to ECES at Stratton, tried some boards, and tried hardbooting for the first time, it was a little strange for the first half of my first run, after that, it was fun. the first board I tried was a Prior FLC 177, I was riding in soft boots a Prior BX 168. the main thing I noticed that was really fun was that I could make probably 7 turns in the space I could make 3 with the soft boots, and still carried more speed, I have always ridden with more of a race style, and stay down the fall line usually, but thats aside the point. that day, I also rode a couple of all mountain hard boot boards, and they worked okay in the choppy fresh snow conditions we had, but the FLC was not much worse either, basically, I did not see the point of them compared to soft boots and/or soft boot boards. I would also recommend getting a metal, carve board particularly if you are riding in the east on ice a bit. or, like others have said get boots and bindings and ride what you have now, to get used to it some, you could still use your soft boot board in powder and crud with soft boots or hard boots in the future. another thing, I have gone through a bit with getting boots to fit, you really only have Deeluxe or UPZ, or Head if you can find some in your size each fit differently. for me, this is what I saw with having both Deeluxe Track 700 and UPZ RC-10 in front of me at the same time: Deeluxe 700 is fairly wide in the heal, narrower in the front (compared to back, not actually wider..), I would say a mid volume boot as far as top to bottom. the UPZ was wider in front, narrower in back, but very low profile, there was almost no room for my higher volume instep, with the stock liner, which is pretty thin, the liner was popping out of the plastic with my foot in it. between the 2, I would say the Deeluxe has better buckles, the lean mechanism is probably better on the UPZ, also, the UPZ with short sole length was a little funny while walking around, only ever had them on carpet as I returned them. so I have the Deeluxe track 700's now, and had a bit of bootfitting work done, and they finally seem to be pretty good for me. hope this helps.

what size boots do you wear? what kind of riding? and what size coat do you wear? I have 2 good hardshells, both gore tex that I no longer use. also, I did not see your price for jacket above, Arcteryx will be a bit more, but any good hardshell will be more than that new most likely.

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