SWriverstone Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 Now that I'm really getting down lower in my turns, I'm feeling something in my boots pressing in almost painfully on the sides of my ankles. It's definitely enough to keep me from focusing fully on what I'm doing. Anyone have a similar experience? Is it the liner? Or that round hinge-thing on the Raichle boots? I tried really cranking down on my straps tonight to see if that made any difference, but it didn't. It doesn't feel like a boot fit issue; I'm pretty sure the length/width of the boots is fine. It's more like a liner/boot "protuberance" issue. (I'm wearing super-thin liner socks.) Any ideas or suggestions on how to get rid of it? Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 if its not a moldable liner a bootfitter can pack it out for you or you can it it your self. you will just need a giant C clamp, if that does not do it, then there are other methods but I would start with that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTA2R Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 Scott, my non expert opinion... if they are the super thin liner socks i'm thinking of, maybe they are actually too thin. Have you tried some standard snowboard socks. they are still relatively thin, but the better ones have more padding in specific areas. I prefer non wool myself. socks can be expensive, but good (and warm) ones are necessary IMO. sides of ankles, perhaps it has to do with you angulating more, thus applying more pressure to those areas. again, more padding there *may help to alleviate. until you get more padding there, may wanna not crank the boots so tight.... === Barry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skatha Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 Do you have some sort of arch support in the boots? Could it be that your arches are flexing and making your feet sit lower in the boots than they are designed to? Thus crunching your ankles in a narrower part of the boot... Just a thought...I'm way more attuned to ankles now that I broke one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWriverstone Posted December 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 Gosh---good points everyone! I'm not sure what to try first! :) Bobdea---you've got me curious about attacking my boots with a C-clamp. Can you (or anyone else) elaborate on that? Barry---good suggestion. My socks are the ultra-thin liner socks, and you're right, slightly thicker socks might help (don't have much leeway at my toes though---they're right at the end of the boot!). Skatha (isn't it Kathy?)---that's a possibility too. I have pretty high arches to start with, but I can definitely feel my heels lifting off the bottom of the boot in turns. I know that's a big part of the problem. Anyone: is it normal to have some degree of heel lift while carving? Or should your boot fit so snugly that your heel stays right against the bottom of the boot at all times? (If it's the latter, then something's way wrong in my boots.) Thanks, Scott PS - Funny I never noticed this last year...but I wasn't flexing nearly as much last year either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike T Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 ... and get a decent footbed. That will also shorten your foot inside the boot and your toes will have a littme more room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWriverstone Posted December 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 Okay, I can definitely go get footbeds. Is this something I can pick up at the local drug store (e.g. Dr. Scholl's)? Or do I have to order some expensive, "made-for-carving-boots" footbeds? :) Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest astan100 Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 I have the Deeluxe Lemans and had a similar problem. It's only my right foot and it feels like the pain is coming right from the that round disc thing...is that the canting mechanism? It was fine until I lost my footing on some ice and my board caught like a foot and half later jamming my foot really hard into that raised area...and then it hurt the rest of the weekend. The last time I went it didn't hurt as much though. I bet it has something to do with the boots, but I dunno. I'm going to go again this Thursday and keep you updated. I was thinking of taking it back to my bootfitter and seeing what they can do. I'll guinea pig it for you with the bootfitter and maybe I'll learn something. P.s- I enjoyed reading your posts at the end of last season...it helped me get into carving also. Inspirational! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWriverstone Posted December 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 I'm going to go again this Thursday and keep you updated. I was thinking of taking it back to my bootfitter and seeing what they can do. I'll guinea pig it for you with the bootfitter and maybe I'll learn something. Thanks astan100! Please keep us updated. I do think the culprit is that round disk-thing. It's evil. I'm going to try the footbed solution along with slightly thicker socks, and see if that helps. I'll keep you posted on that as well! Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dano Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 My 125's give me a god-awful blister right below my inboard rear ankle. It doesn't happen so much from riding, it seems to be happening if I have to push off and glide too much that day...really freakin painful and slow to heal! I tried lowering my boot cuffs a bit and it's better, ( i noticed this also helped heel lifting inside the boot as well.) and I'm also trying some different liners this year, but now I'm curious about the bob's c-clamp attack... With boot pain/blisters I assume you would want to squeeze the shell closer/tighter to where it hurts...? And maybe heat it first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschurman Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 Okay, I can definitely go get footbeds. Is this something I can pick up at the local drug store (e.g. Dr. Scholl's)? Or do I have to order some expensive, "made-for-carving-boots" footbeds? :)Scott I would suggest <a href = "http://www.superfeet.com/content/blue.html"> these</a> from Superfeet. You can get them pretty much at any ski shop or online if you want. Tognar sells them as do some others. I am going to be trying out <a href = "http://www.itsyoursole.com/"> these</a> once my ankle is fully healed. I'll report more on them once I get to try them out. But I have used the superfeet insoles and they 10x better then no footbed at all. You need the footbed as a starting point to get your foot/leg in proper alignment. Once you have that foundation then you can go from there should you have any other issues with the fitting. ->Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike T Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 I would suggest these from Superfeet. You can get them pretty much at any ski shop or online if you want. Tognar sells them as do some others. There is another brand that I wuld ercommend over Superfeet for the same price of $30 - my wife got some this weekend and says they are much more comfortable - if only I could remember the brand name - will try to find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest astan100 Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 If you feel like dropping more coin (not that this necessarily fixes the problem), I went to surefoot where they made me custom fit insoles for 200 bucks. However, it includes lifetime boot modifications for free, so that might be worth it. I will note that I had mine heat molded and THEN went and got the custom footbed. I didn't want to re-heat mold if I didn't have to. Now I'm questioning if I should, but why am I only getting pain in the right foot? If the pain comes from skating etc. more than riding, maybe that explains it? Perhaps the lesson learned is never skate....ever. edit: http://www.surefoot.com/shop/ -Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 you need to pack out a certain spot such as the "eggs" in the heel or another spot that is too tight what you need to is get a C clamp and possibly some small metal peices to adjust the size of the contact area you need to compress after this is figured out get the clamp on there as tight as you can and leave it over night. the trouble with this method is the mileage varies between liners, some will pack nearly flat and others will hardly pack at all. also I have seen boot techs take a rubber mallet to liners as well but I have not done this method myself so I don't wanna give bad advice on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 I had the same problems with two of my boots. At one of my boots I put a piece of rubber, neonprene at the spot, the material they use for wetsuits. Worked fine with me. The other boot I didn't fix a thing, I only used better insoles so my feet couldn't move, my heels were fixed, and cranked the boots real tight. Hope you will solve the problems, otherwise your snowboarddays really sucks with this pain. Greets, Hans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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