Guest Thomas_S Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Sorry if I'm sounded a little over the top right now, but I just ordered my new Donek 158 Hyunso Race. :D Also got my name put in the base if some little ****er tries to steal it. I swear to god I'll shoot 'em :D. Three weeks! Can't wait! Now, the real reason for this is to get a lil bit of binding help. I've narrowed it down to the Catek Olympic 2's, and the Bomber TD2's. Opinions for a 130lb ish rider? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDY_2_Carve Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 You can't go wrong with either. I'll put in my plug for TD's though... Yeah TD's. Help Fin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike T Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Which do you value more, infinite cant/lift choices (OS2) or suspension (TD2)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Thomas_S Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Mike - prolly the suspension, although I'd like a mix of both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Sub Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Mike - prolly the suspension, although I'd like a mix of both. bombers ARE a mix of both, although the catek has a suspension ring as well. honestly...at your weight...you dont even "need" to spend the dough on such heavy duty bindings. by all means buy them if you want, but...you could get away with plenty of other options for a lot less $$ keep in mind that while TD2 cant/lift options arent infinite, theyre pretty flexible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Thomas_S Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 bombers ARE a mix of both, although the catek has a suspension ring as well.honestly...at your weight...you dont even "need" to spend the dough on such heavy duty bindings. by all means buy them if you want, but...you could get away with plenty of other options for a lot less $$ keep in mind that while TD2 cant/lift options arent infinite, theyre pretty flexible! Honestly, I've bought gear in the past that didn't last long, even when well taken care of. Snowboarding. Mountain Biking. Photography. Kayaking. Its gotten to the point now where I'm gonna spend the money, buy quality, and not have to worry about a replacement for a LONG time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Sub Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 done deal. me personally...I actually prefer the simplicty of bombers. I had a pair of Olympics and fiddled with them for a while and just imagined myself caught up in tweaking them way too often. I have TD2s with 3/3, and last year ended up with mostly lift/a little cant on the front, and split about even between cant/lift on the back. they are powerful, solidly built bindings that will offer you years and years of durability. Im sure Oly's would last forever, too. TD2s, to me = elegant, precise, and simple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 for me it's the opposite...I find Cateks pure simple and elegant. Admitedly I'm supportive of the hometown company (I'm from Newport R.I.). Something to think about with the NEW Cateks lots of folks will have to have the latest greatest...a pair of OS1's will likely be able to be had for a bargin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Sub Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 ok ok...its all about west vs east so if youre in the west, you have to buy bomber! how you can say Cateks are simple when one could spend the rest of their lives tweaking cant and lift is beyond me! :) Gecko has a fine point about soon to be sales Id bet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 I set them up once and adjusted them over 1 day and have left them since...for me it's about the ability to have my stance comfortable. The east west thing is rather amusing since TD's are arguably better for east snow and OS for west coast... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Sub Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 well...see...yorue THAT kind of person, and Im not. Id be tweakin all day and all night cuz Im stupid obsessive like that. hilarious about the conditions though...youre right since bombers are a little more absorbing in theory, probably better for icy conditions, huh! theyre both badass binders, no doubt, and you wont be making a mistake with either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Randy S. Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 I echo most of what was said here. I'm partial to the Bombers because of the set-and-forget approach. You'll love your new board. It will also have your name on the top as well (in the little specs box it will say made for: yourname. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamran Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 how you can say Cateks are simple when one could spend the rest of their lives tweaking cant and lift is beyond me! One could argue, you play with the cant & lift adjustments on cateks simply because you CAN ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 One could argue, you play with the cant & lift adjustments on cateks simply because you CAN ! correct just because you can fidgit doesn't mean you need to fidgit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Did you decide if you are going with Standard bails or Step-in? That will be another rambling thread... I've never tried TD bindings, but lots of my friends ride them. I got a pair of Catek Olympic standard bails (not the newest design) and I also ride the Olympic step-ins. They are kinda tough to adjust when you first get them, it is way easier if someone can tweak/adjust them with you and show you the ropes. You can't go wrong with either one, Hugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamran Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Gecko, cant and lift adjustments (as I wrote) equals fidgit ? I ride cateks on my virus, then on powder or less groomed days I put them on my donek axis. And believe me, when you are changing bindings from one board to a whole different board, you are happy you CAN adjust cant and lift. just my 2 cents though. I think bombers and cateks are both good products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobRidesSquaw Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 I know people here probably wont like this but: I used to run TD-1s and recently switched to Burton Race plates at the advice of a teammate. My riding chaned a lot, for the better, i couldnt flex the TDs at all and the burtons all me to have more control. I know the TDs are amazing bindings and i am keeping them until i weigh a little more and can ride with them. I guess it is just preference in the end though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Gecko,cant and lift adjustments (as I wrote) equals fidgit ? I ride cateks on my virus, then on powder or less groomed days I put them on my donek axis. And believe me, when you are changing bindings from one board to a whole different board, you are happy you CAN adjust cant and lift. just my 2 cents though. I think bombers and cateks are both good products. sorry spelled it wrong...as difined by Dictionary.com fidg·et·ed, fidg·et·ing, fidg·ets v. intr. To behave or move nervously or restlessly. To play or fuss; fiddle: changing boards isn't really defined as fidget since you are essentially setting up a new board...with D-Sub fidgeting is definatly an issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Sub Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 I think tinker is a better word, and yes, its probably an issue. I have been known to "fix" things that arent broken, definitely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrCR Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Is that why all the EC guys are using TD2s instead of Cateks? I don't think I've seen one case of Cateks on a Swoard. I've heard them bending TD2 bails though, hense the Titanium TD2 version. I remember reading that thread awhile back on the Catek forum where they disputed the TD2 had better shock absorption claim, actually said the Catek was better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike T Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 I remember reading that thread awhile back on the Catek forum where they disputed the TD2 had better shock absorption claim, actually said the Catek was better. If I remember right, one of the main contributors to said thread was an anti-Bomber fellow with a chip on his shoulder... I found the TD2 w/ "original" yellow e-ring to be a noticably smoother ride than the "original" Olympic. The "new" yellow e-rings are even more dampened, based on a similar back-to-back test on the same board, same run. If a guy like me can notice... chances are so can you. LIke others have said though, they are both kick@SS bindings and I think most of us would be happy riding on either one. I just happen to be partial to TD2's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 This article will give you a good idea of how TD2s work: http://www.bomberonline.com/articles/TD2_setup.cfm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linus Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 So here is another Bomber vs. Catek thread :D :D :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Dahl Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Is that why all the EC guys are using TD2s instead of Cateks? I don't think I've seen one case of Cateks on a Swoard. I've heard them bending TD2 bails though, hense the Titanium TD2 version.I remember reading that thread awhile back on the Catek forum where they disputed the TD2 had better shock absorption claim, actually said the Catek was better. And I pointed out that the Catek drawing of the differance was slanted in favor of the Catek, but a closer look at the drawings revealed a certain amount of mis-information bias on thier part. No one countered my assertation, so I think as I did then, that TD2's would have a more favorable bending moment at the e-ring than the Catek at the edge of the plate, favoring the TD2 as far as board dynamics are concerned. However the new Catek may change that.Haven't seen any real close-ups so I won't comment on that. That said at 160 lbs. I REALLY felt the difference in board interface stiffness when I switched fron Snowpro's to TD2s. Now am eagerly awaiting the Bomber RAB to come out to put a little of the flex needed where it belongs, in the boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Thomas_S Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 I've opened up a very big can of worms. Sorry :D Anyhow, thanks to everyone for the help. I've got a week or so before I need to make the decision, so I've got some time to weigh the opinions. Thanks! I'm also gonna be taking a close look at the classifieds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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