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How much cant VS lift do you use on your TD2's (back bindiner, assuming >45deg angle)  

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  1. 1. How much cant VS lift do you use on your TD2's (back bindiner, assuming >45deg angle)

    • All Cant (base plate is sloped perpendicular to top plate)
      2
    • More cant than lift (slope of base plate angled towards heel side of board)
      2
    • Equal cant and lift (slope of base plate angled slightly towards heel side of board)
      5
    • More lift than Cant (base plate aligned approximately with board length like TD1's)
      13
    • All Lift (base plate is sloped in line with top plate)
      14


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I voted on the "more lift than cant" cause that's just what I've become comfy with for most of my binding set-ups over the years. But I actually played around with just straight cant (TD2s), front and rear (3 deg) during the last part of the spring season on a couple of decks and liked it ok too - guess I CANT make up my mind :smashfrea :rolleyes:

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mmmmmmmmmmmm most ec'ers would most likely say that the TD2 is too stiff to EC on. SOOOOOOOOOO, moot point nils . . . I guess. Though I do know some racers on 0, 0 as well. But, I really dont need to hear about these people, cause its not the point of the poll. I guess I should have worded the question differently, "for those who use cant and/of lift"

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untrue because most of us are using that binding ;)

U can modify the poll then ;) nahh kidding ;)

would be interesting to know the stats of those with 0/0, those with 3 or 6 degrees discs, as well as those on yellow, red or purple bumpers

Nils

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I'll change the lift/cant ratios depending on stance angle and width.

On narrow waist width boards (18 cm) my big feet require high stance angles (70/68) and in this stance my pelvis/hips are wider than the board. This positions my legs to 'feed in' to my boots from an outside angle, and thus, I cant outwards (like Jack recommends).

<img src="http://tinypic.com/f0atjn.jpg" alt="IMO outward canting helps when hips are wider than a narrow-waist board.">

On wider boards, as my stance geometry changes, I find it better to go flat or cant inwards slightly (only at really low stance angles on wide powder/backcountry boards).

The amount of lift is also determined by stance width: more width, more lift.

I think DaVinci was getting at the same thing: that our joints move our limbs through arcs. IMO this is directly related to adjusting cant and lift on your bindings.

<img src="http://tinypic.com/f0ap2r.jpg" alt="DaVinci <I>Vitruvian</I>: cants/lifts">

Mi dos centavos,

B-2

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Yeah, I should have added this option as well.

I ride cateks right now, however, I know for a fact that I use outward cant on my rear foot. Just a hair. I agree with jack and bob. MOST excellent! Heelside locks in like no tomorrow. But I Do feel you loose a hair of power on your toe side.

~tb

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One click on the TD2 of outward cant on the rear foot. Allows for better drive on the heelside.

I ride with a small outward cant on the rear and like Bob said it really does help on your heelsides. I've played with the Bob's "gas pedal" 6 front 3 rear method and well be trying it again this season. It does seem to help on turn initiation. You do loose a bit on your toeside but that is my better turn anyways :D so I'm willing to give a little on my toeside so I can pressure my heelside more.

There is nothing better than hooking up on a heelside, if you can master the heelside while grabbing the front toeside of your board like TB, damn it is a great feeling.... :D when the board hooks up and you get pulled through the turn. I ride with and outward cant on both my TD2's and Cateks.

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One click on the TD2 of outward cant on the rear foot. Allows for better drive on the heelside.

Also, try the gas pedal set up: 6 degree front 3 degree rear. (Simply, more cant on the front foot than the rear. Does not have to be 6 and 3 Could be 3 and zero or 6 and zero.) This places you a bit farther back, but more importantly. It allows you to pressure the nose earlier with less body english.

Bob got me to try this out last year and it rocks for me at 65* both front and rear. 6* front, 3* rear with 1 click outward cant on the rear foot. Just lift on the front. It's what all the cool kids are doing!

->Ben

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