tripine Posted February 27, 2023 Report Share Posted February 27, 2023 Ever since I got the deluxe 700 ts I’ve had Serious toe pain. I’m in the correct size boot. I’m definitely a 28. Does anyone know if these boots have a narrower toe box. Also which boots have widest toe box tx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortcutToMoncton Posted February 27, 2023 Report Share Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) I have very wide forefeet and UPZ has been the most comfortable in stock form (out of old Deeluxe boots, older Dalbello Krypton Pro ski boots, or newer Mountain Slope which I now have….I’ve never tried the old Head boots). Having said that, you should likely not be expecting any of these boots to fit stock. Just expect to need a ski bootfitter to punch the shells wider. You may have already done that, but if not, consider it a mandatory boot-buying process. Edited February 27, 2023 by ShortcutToMoncton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pow4ever Posted February 27, 2023 Report Share Posted February 27, 2023 My experience: Deeluxe - pretty narrow toe box and large heel Upz - narrow heel wide toe box MS951 - medium/narrow toe box, medium heel I am surprise the Atomic Backland actually fit my foot with simple heat molding the shell. (memory fit) with great heel hold. +1 on look for a good boot fitter. those few mm can be the different between heaven and hell. A good boot fitter is a must for those of us with abnormal feet. Lionel (owner of Happy Tune) Near Sugarloaf is awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonbordin Posted February 27, 2023 Report Share Posted February 27, 2023 Find a bootfitter. Here's a source- https://www.bootfitters.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripine Posted February 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2023 Tx guys. Have done some blowing out toes but not blowing wider. Wasn’t aware of any heating and molding the shells for hardboots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcing Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 I just got some D 700s. Did the whole molded liner and all and one foot hurts still. I’m gonna try getting that boot punched out on the side. My feet are kinda wide. Thanks for the posts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 I've also got wide feet and running Deeluxe shells. Mine are punched out but another thing I did to help was to wrap my forefoot in 1/8" thick foam tape when molding the liners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastsiiiide Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 (edited) Here is a thread I started on wide boots last year that has some good input from others. I have Deeluxe T700 and UPZ RC12, and I find the T700 much roomier in the toebox. They're the same stated boot size, and I've tried a variety of liners, including swapping the same liners back and forth between them. Unfortunately the Palau thermo liners the T700s came with have been a total fail as the heel hold disappeared after molding. The UPZ liners that come with the RC12 are stitched really narrow at the toe, but the material is thin and flexible (looks like neoprene) so they actually stretch to fit nicely around the toes. There is also have a lot of padding around the ankle for heel hold, so I find they actually work well in the T700s, which are known for poor-to-nonexistant heel hold. The T700s feel like a blank slate to me, a big empty shell that's totally dependent on what liner you put inside it. The design and quality of the RC12s is excellent, but I expect I'll have to invest in significant bootfitting to make the toe and midfoot wider in order to make them work. Edited March 23, 2023 by Eastsiiiide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffV Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 before you look for new boots I would echo lonbordin's suggestion to find a bootfitter and get your toe box punched out. I had it done on my T700's years ago and it helped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aracan Posted March 14, 2023 Report Share Posted March 14, 2023 I suffered something fierce in Deeluxes. Switched to UPZs and never looked back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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