xacta168 Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 (edited) Hi, I have a 160 Hot Logical Regular Asymmetrical that I have never taken out, I started snowboarding in 1992 and a friend of mine had the Burton PJ 7 and ever since then I have wanted try try the Asym board. I would like to hear from all the Asym riders out there about your experience on the this type of board, good and bad. Thanks. Greg Edited March 17, 2012 by xacta168 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LambertoMI Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 I have a vintage PJ7 that I had as brand new until a few years ago. The board is wicked and I love the un-matched sidecuts. Mine has a defective tail that has a unusual amount of camber for any board. So I love to ride old school and love asym riding. I have not ridden the hot logical, but I imagine it must be similar. L- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowboardfast Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 If the board is in good condition you could ride it. I rode one years ago at Ski Sunlight in Glenwood springs CO and it was fun. Does your board have inserts or is it ski screw mounting? If it has inserts it would be fine. Virus is making an asym race board now. If the board has ski screw mounting that would be a problem to mount today's bindings on it.If it has real old snowpro vario p3 bindings on it I would not ride the board. You might post a picture of the board? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caspercarver Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 It really depends on the board. I have a F2 Beamer wc that i rode once and will probably never ride again, total lead sled. My F2 Beamer wc carbon is the funnest board i have ever ridden and i have been riding since 1990. I would pay a pretty penny to find another one. Maybe i will send it off someday to Coiler and see if he can make a Coiler version. Check out this video on my F2 asym. <iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/4474212" webkitallowfullscreen="" mozallowfullscreen="" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="338" width="500"></iframe> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kieran Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 It really depends on the board. I have a F2 Beamer wc that i rode once and will probably never ride again, total lead sled. My F2 Beamer wc carbon is the funnest board i have ever ridden and i have been riding since 1990. I would pay a pretty penny to find another one. Maybe i will send it off someday to Coiler and see if he can make a Coiler version. Check out this video on my F2 asym.better hide that video before Jack gets a look at it, you aren't allowed to have fun on asym boards! ;)ps if bruce starts making them i'm in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xacta168 Posted March 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Holy crap Casper, I can see why you like your Asym, I have never seen anyone ride an Asym like that, wow that really gives me something to shoot for. Thanks for all the feedback guys, but please tell me what you like about riding the Asyms. I also have a Hooger Asym Goofy that has never seen the snow as the inserts were never put in the board I might be willing to sell or trade. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LambertoMI Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Well all I can say is that I like the natural feel an asym gives me. Hard to explain but I feel ver y assertive on them. I push hard on my healsides and I pop from one turn to the next. With not much fear. Only recently has my virus come close to this feel. I must say that my asym is the last board they will pry from my dead hand. Perhaps this is all nostalgia? But Casper here shows some great riding on an asym. I too had an F2 Beamer and it was very good. Bilut it was too stiff and too short for my 200 lbs. I need to find someone locally here in michigan to film me so i can studyy technique between the new school virus and the old school pj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xacta168 Posted March 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Thanks for the reply Lamberto, so you have the Virus Asym? I wish I had seen Caspers video earlier in the season I would have taken it out. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caspercarver Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 I'm not going on the record and say there is anything special about asyms, but there is something special about mine! I have four other asyms sitting in my closet and i pass by it now and then and say to myself "when am i going to haul all that junk down to the dumpster". I feel this particular board just matches my personality and style. I got lucky. There's something in what LambertoMI says about the way it turns. It turns aggressively and easily. I have said in other threads, I'm not taking this board out in anything but hero conditions. If it's icy, steep, or i feel like smoothing out the groomers with my body i grab my Swoard:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Casper, I always enjoy your vids! You are a machine man, I can imagine the faces of people looking on slope. Xacta, I've sent you an email re. Hooger. BTW, this thread is in a wrong section, only reviews go here. General discussion of asyms should be in the main forum - you'll get more responses too. Maybe ask Jack to move it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LambertoMI Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Greg I wish I had the virus asym. Mine is a carbon stealth and it is awesome but a little short at 170. But I have never rideen so good! This has been my best year in 25 yrs To casper's point, asyms are about finding the right board that suits you well. Lamberto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 (edited) I rode asyms for 4 years. I think there are a few things we need to be honest about when waxing nostalgic for our old asyms. 1, almost any board and any technique works on good conditions. This is why I got hooked on carving on a 1989 Burton Safari Comp II, a board which by today's standards, royally sucks. And so did I. 2, an expert carver can have fun and make carving look good on almost any equipment. 3, the quickest most efficient way to move your mass across the board (or move the board under your mass) is in a straight line perpendicular to the board. This is why symmetrical boards are the standard. It was not an industry conspiracy to do away with extra tooling. If you like asyms and have fun riding them, that's great. But you could probably do better on a sym, IMO. More: http://www.bomberonline.com/resources/Techarticles/rise_fall.html Edited March 28, 2012 by Jack Michaud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xacta168 Posted March 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Thanks for moving the thread Jack, I have read the article "The rise and fall of the Asym" a while ago. Hey lamberto who makes the Carbon Stealth? can you post a pic? Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pusbag Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Well I rode a kemper ac 167 freecarve for almost a decade. Retired it when the plate with the 4x4 pattern started to pull through the topsheet. Loved that board ended up replacing it with a nitro blazer 165. Now loving my custom prior 4x4 best board I have ever had. Snowboard evolution at its finest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boarderboy Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 (edited) Mid to late '60's longboard era, Carl Ekstrom built asym surfboards. If I'm not mistaken, he's still active in board design!! At any rate, as of late asym design seems to be making more of an impact on short surfboards than it did on longboards (?) Granted, the dynamics are different - no bindings, a softer, more fluid medium, and the ability to make subtle foot and forward/back trimming movements. FWIW, I still have my Burton M6 modded with Sims SnowStix. Think I experienced my first real hardboot carves on that board. Great memories and still, to me, one of the best topsheet graphics ever. As a lazy minimalist, I don't like to think about or over-analyze gear too much, but the fact that today, highly-regarded Pureboarding will still build you a custom, apparently dynamite asym carver is strong evidence that the concept remains viable... BB Edited March 28, 2012 by boarderboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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