Hotbeans Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 I just picked up a board, well used, that has a *mostly* flat base and wanted to get some expert opinion here.. The base deflects ~ 1-2mm down each edge nearly the full length of the board. The curvature starts 1 cm from the edge as measured across the width of the base. Curvature is towards topsheet, so base would be convex (generalized for the sake of illustration). I haven't taken the flat edge to the topsheet side yet, so it may not involve the core at all, but possibly wear from edge tuning? oh heck.. here's a photo.. Ok to ride w/ this going on? Worth a base grind? Affect the ride very much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor VonRippington Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 Have it ground... you'll fall over trying to carve a board that's that far base high... probably get the wobbles if you try to run it straight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_roboteye Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 Is it rideable? Yes, but the difference will be noticable compared to your other boards. It will affect the ride significantly. Whether or not it's worth a grind depends on how many times it's been ground before, if ever. You'll have to see your local tuing shop for their opinion as to whether or not there is enough base material left to get the base flat. Just looking at it, my gut feeling is yes, but only if it hasn't been ground before. You can usually tell if a boards' been ground before by examining the base near the nose about halfway from the start of the curve to the tip. There will be a noticable change in the structure where the grinding wheel lifted off the board, or was lifted off the board. good luck, Dave R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Prokopiw Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 for rail slides! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotbeans Posted December 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 Perfect! I'll be the only hardbooter in the park. Just imagine the questions now.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Prokopiw Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 hardbooter in the park since 1989.Slide up to the drop ramp at the pipe as an 'old guy' in hardboots and feel no pressure to do anything good.Then drop in switch and blow their little jib bonking minds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Bird Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 as you drop in yell 'Damian Rules!!!!!' Pink boots will be mandatory though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotbeans Posted December 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 Ok. About a base tune... Two of the inserts form little convex lumps that stand 0.5mm. I'm thinking that these might be the limiting factor on how much can be safely taken off. You think the base can still be ground flat? (sorry for all the questions. There isn't anyone who can do a grind around here. I'm going to have to ship it.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor VonRippington Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 ............................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 Just ride, you will notice that stuff there, if you are not top racer :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyagt4 Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 Looks like the perfect candidate for your next rock board. If it were my board, it'd bug me just because I knew it wasn't perfect, whether I could feel it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carvedog Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 so the base has slight bumps under the binders? Could be your binding screws are slightly too long. Attempt shorter screws and if the bumps minimize then keep them in and tune. Depending on how many times it's been tuned you may extend the life a bit. I have ground through the base on a couple of boards trying to get them flat again. And it usually means for me the that the core has started to lose it's integrity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotbeans Posted December 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 so the base has slight bumps under the binders?Could be your binding screws are slightly too long. Attempt shorter screws and if the bumps minimize then keep them in and tune. Depending on how many times it's been tuned you may extend the life a bit. I have ground through the base on a couple of boards trying to get them flat again. And it usually means for me the that the core has started to lose it's integrity. I just picked up the board so I don't know it's history. Funny thing is, either the seller didn't mention that there were these issues or didn't notice himself. Either way, it's kind of a bummer thinking that I could wind up making a *bench* (Thanks for the idea, Thor!) out of it. Any east coast suggestions for a tuner that might be able to get this flat? Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor VonRippington Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 Spill the beans... what kind of board are we working with here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotbeans Posted December 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 I'll get it out tomorrow night. Although it'll bug me that it may not be structurally sound, I should'nt make assumptions about ride quality until I get some ride time on it. If it rides like an aluminum disk sled then I'll need to contact the seller on this one.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingCrimson Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 You know, Burton puts base-high into new boards and calls it easy rider? Silly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxguitarist Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 Chances are, it'll ride fine, but will require more angle to get any grip- small amounts of tipping the board will result in no turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotbeans Posted December 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 icy spots should be a blast! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor VonRippington Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 I'm surprised at some of the posts on this thread. The dimples shown in post #8 wouldn't really bother me much unless I paid a premium for the board. BUT... the pic in post #1 shows a board that is not ridable or needs a lot of work which will take years of life off of the board. HB... you just bought this board and the damage wasn't stated by the seller. Seller should hide in shame. Trash... send it back!! I have an old Nidecker 170GS with a small amount of damage that you can have HB... it would ride way better than this piece of garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotbeans Posted December 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Heck, Thor! You've got a fistful of my green headed your way as we speak for your 170 wcr. Fire THAT baby out in the mail! Very much appreciate the offer thou. I'm sure I'd love the ride having some idea of what kinds of boards you have at your disposal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 You know, Burton puts base-high into new boards and calls it easy rider? That is exactly what I thought when I saw the original post. Sever other companies have done this and/or are doing it. A lot of riders really like these boards. They are especially adept at rails, but several top notch riders have told me that they really like them everywhere. Silly... Have you ridden one? I just got back from a demo day of easy rider tech. I did not hear a negative comment from anyone other than a few that said that they would not want it as their main ride - but still liked it for some applications. Everyone there (mostly instructors) agreed that it would make learning a lot easier. Beginners should progress nicely on these boards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxguitarist Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 That is exactly what I thought when I saw the original post. Sever other companies have done this and/or are doing it. A lot of riders really like these boards. They are especially adept at rails, but several top notch riders have told me that they really like them everywhere.Have you ridden one? I just got back from a demo day of easy rider tech. I did not hear a negative comment from anyone other than a few that said that they would not want it as their main ride - but still liked it for some applications. Everyone there (mostly instructors) agreed that it would make learning a lot easier. Beginners should progress nicely on these boards. Sure, its nearly impossible to catch the downhill edge while skidding around. Conversely, it's nearly impossible to transition onto an edge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Not true at all. They carve just fine for a the kind of board that they are. Have you ridden one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxguitarist Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 I haven't, but it's the last thing I'd want on ice. In softer stuff I'd imagine its fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor VonRippington Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Burton should call it the "No-Carver" I can see the application for a never-ever newb who needs to skid... but those with mad skillz like Hotbeans would have a hard time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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