Jack M Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARfCtJCZY88&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARfCtJCZY88&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> I know this is old news, but I just came across this. Sounds cool. Too bad they don't make a <del>real</del>... err, alpine board. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawndoggy Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 levelninesports has those decks for $299. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr D Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 coool:lurk: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groovastic Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 I've been doing some kind of project on Head Intelligence system when I was on college, and it seems to be rather good for some stuff, but does have some draw backs! As a board gets stiffer the harder you push it, the problem occures when riding bumps or chopped up stuff. The board gets impacts from snow, what makes it stiffen up, and bumps are a place where a board should not be stiff... just my $0.02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadBrad Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 They mention the tennis racquets, but some skis have had this (or similar) technology for years, right? I'm pretty sure I've seen skis with at least some sort of active electronic damping, if not active electronic stiffening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 They mention the tennis racquets, but some skis have had this (or similar) technology for years, right? I'm pretty sure I've seen skis with at least some sort of active electronic damping, if not active electronic stiffening. k2 had a passive peizo electric system that had led lights like 10 years or more ago but this is a different type of thing because it changes the flex of the deck... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted September 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 I meant to say... he's still one of the smoothest riders out there. Although he's dropped his trademark arm-swing. Watching him in Snowrules and then Chill made me vow to learn how to carve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadBrad Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 I've been doing some kind of project on Head Intelligence system when I was on college, and it seems to be rather good for some stuff, but does have some draw backs! As a board gets stiffer the harder you push it, the problem occures when riding bumps or chopped up stuff. The board gets impacts from snow, what makes it stiffen up, and bumps are a place where a board should not be stiff...just my $0.02 I suppose you could put a switch on the board so that you could disable the active stiffening for riding in the bumps. Or, instead of having it automatically stiffen based on the conditions, make it manually adjustable, kind of like those electronically-adjustable automobile shocks that have a regular setting, a sport setting, and a track setting. The snowboard could have settings for groom, bumps, ice, speed, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donek Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Considering all the engineers on this board, I'm surprised nobody else has pointed this out. First off graphs in advertising are almost always about deception. If you carfeully examine the little test they've performed, you'll easily pick it apart as utter nonsense. I know that when I'm trying to make an accurate measurement I use a hand swung hammer. It always provides the exact same impact. Look at the two curves. The blue one is an exact replica of the red one only with a smaller initial impulse. This tells us that the two boards have reacted in precisely the same way, except the second one wasn't hit quite as hard. If the vibrations were affected in a manner that provide dampening, it would take less time for the vibrations to subside. If this sytem actually made a difference in the manner in which the board reacts, I would expect to see a dramatically different looking blue curve. Instead I see the same curve with a smaller initial impulse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
price Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Peter e-mailed me this link last week, it is a little off topic but some of you might get a kick out of it. http://blog.amplid.com/2008/03/11/a-little-history-lesson/ I hope you enjoy it! Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowboardfast Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 I demoed this board and did not like it as I thought the ride was very harsh in the bumps. This was with soft boots. I thought it was too stiff for bump riding and I weigh 185. Maybe it would be okay in perfect untracked powder but I was looking for a good all mountain board at the time. Stiffening up more in bumps is not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philfell Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Wow Price, what are you doing here with all the nerds??? Heinel says you are a homo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted September 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Peter e-mailed me this link last week, it is a little off topic but some of you might get a kick out of it. http://blog.amplid.com/2008/03/11/a-little-history-lesson/ I hope you enjoy it! Ian I have that vid, love it. From that blog: "So: Who invented what we know as “The 80ies”? Who was the first in pink and purple? Who was against any kind of establishment? Who was able to show the world that you actually can control a snowboard? And: Here comes the evidence for “20 years experience in boarddesign” … enjoy PB and friends carving it up at Whistler B.C., the capital of platebindings (in the 80ies!)." That video was shot in 1991 and appeared in the 1992 Burton catalog, so I'm not sure what the 80's references are about. 80's would have been Safaris. Phil: says you! :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philw Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 [...]I'm surprised nobody else has pointed this out. [...] Precisely. But then I just noticed your name so you do know about this stuff. I suppose you're supposed to look at it and just think: "oh, that's clever stuff which I don't understand so it must be good". It has the opposite effect, making the whole thing sound like BS. Because that "test" certainly is. In any case, from the rest of the video the pitch seems to be about variable flex control, not about damping (active or passive). So that pathetic "test" would not actually demonstrate what the good man's talking about even if it wasn't fake. Perhaps the whole thing is confused, or at least it has confused me. I'd like to see some actual description of what's in the thing and what it's supposed to do (active damping, or variable flex). Probably there's a patent somewhere to look up. I suppose I'll have to google if I get bored. If I could carry fewer boards through having configurable flex in each maybe that would be useful, but not that useful as there are many other parameters besides flex which I need to be different in piste and powder board (eg board width, taper...). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
price Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 While Peter Bauer is a legend and an incredible snowboarder and all around great guy, lets not forget he is now a salesman. Take a step back and forget that it is Peter and think does this really make sense? Can I have a plate shake it around and have pancakes and another day shake it around and have Eggs with Bacon? IF so sign me up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinks Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 Ian, I like what Phil said.Ha! Ha! If someone wants interactive flex I know an old design that you can use. Tinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
price Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 Ian, I like what Phil said.Ha! Ha!If someone wants interactive flex I know an old design that you can use. Tinks. As always it is great to hear from a true innovator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr D Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 anybody actually ride this thing? if it works it seems to me that it would be more for varied densities and snow pack off piste rather than the be all end all board for pow and groom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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