groovastic Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 I've never ridden an allmtn board, but i am thinking of getting one. perhaps Coiler AM (23 cm in waist). Having ridden longer and shorter, softer and stiffer race/carve boards i drew a conclusion that some boards "prefere" really hard boots, and others not so hard ones. Or am I wrong? and what about all mtn boards? I guess my UPZ boots would be too stiff for such a ride, no? what boots do you suggest? and what's the difference between Suzuka and Track 325? Hardness is 6 on both, as i saw on deeluxe website. is it the canting only? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pow Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 the shell shape, the cant adjuster, and at the moment the buckles are different, but the buckles are about to get a change on the suzuka. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groovastic Posted April 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 so what boots would you recommend for an allmtn board? not necessarily DeeLuxe. would Head or some others be even better? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skategoat Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 If you can find them, there is a Blax/DSM/Line model that uses a Head shell and has an adjustable lean wheel in the back. It works really well. The boot is fairly soft (softer than my Raichle 225s) but supportive. Very nice boot. There's a size 29 in the classifieds right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gtanner Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 UPZ with Coiler AM - I am currently riding this set-up with Catek standard OS1's. So the real question is what flex you are looking for and what bindings you are riding. Stiffer boots with an AM isn't a bad thing depending on what you are looking to ride. Different binding models or having Bruce soften/stiffen up the board can make all the difference. My board is a little softer than I had expected, but it works with the stiff binding/boot interface that I ride, so good for all mountain conditions. So what I'm saying is, no need to go buy another set of expensice boots. Especially if your boots are comfy! There are other options that could work out better. -Gord Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bordy Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 I would just run a shofter binder on the AM.. i ride My Zeds every where. A pair of F2s are alot cheaper then boots.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike T Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 I rode the same boots and bindings on everything... and just don't crank the buckles as tight for AM riding. Still tight enough to be safe but just not quite as responsive. Works for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skategoat Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 Another approach would be to install BTS springs and swap out the springs for each type of riding. I don't suppose they fit on UPZ boots though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pow Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 BTS springs are not made to be switch-outable. you can change them, but not without basically taking the whole system apart first. It's a set it and forget it system, much like their bindings. Switching springs is about the same as switching e-rings every time you ride, except switching springs causes more wear on the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skategoat Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 BTS springs are not made to be switch-outable. you can change them, but not without basically taking the whole system apart first. It's a set it and forget it system, much like their bindings. Switching springs is about the same as switching e-rings every time you ride, except switching springs causes more wear on the system. Ya, you're right. Eventually the pins would stop gripping the plastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 Why change things up? Just ride what's comfortable for you. If you like your UPZs, just use your UPZs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.oldsnowboards.com Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 Might check out the SB series. A set of SB 314 or 413 :) with softer BTS set up can offer the flex that many prefer for all mountain hard boot riding. More side to side flex than the AF series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abakker Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 well, i do have two sets of boots for different boards/conditions. i have 2 sets of os2s adjusted one for each set of boots, and just move the top plate back and forth between sets and boards to switch. i have head stratos pros in size 27 with race tounges which i ride on my alpine boards, and track 325s in size 28 which i ride on my tanker and reto. i find that the softer flex in the 325 in powder mode is great for the AM boards, and that even in lockout, i can't get them tight enough to drive a coiler PR 184. on the other hand, the head stratos is just too damn stiff for the tanker, and i can't utilize my twitch reflexes to ride comfortably in powder and trees. the only reason i have the switchable bindings is for slushy days where i want the softer boots on my alpine board to minimize shin bang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekdut Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 Or you could be like Madd Mike and have a different boot on each foot :D I think he was wearing UPZ on one foot, and Indys on another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike T Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 Might check out the SB series. A set of SB 314 or 413 :) with softer BTS set up can offer the flex that many prefer for all mountain hard boot riding. More side to side flex than the AF series. With the SB series, you can collect different tongues and change them out easily. I used to do that with a pair of 225's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guido591 Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 Can't get your Track 325's tight enough to drive the Coiler? I've got a custom Surefoot orthotic and liner in my 325's and they are as snug (and comfortable) as can be. Perhaps whatever liner you are using simply isn't adequate, as the boot material itself is plenty stiff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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