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theyre saying the roads should be good by tuesday around here. anyone around tuesday or wedensday? I have about 7"-8" right now.

Good to meet you mike. Got some runs in through the morning and the legs were burning by noon.ill meet up with you after xmas, mark. Hope to be out a lot that week.

If he' a rich dr. then his wife d doesn't do laundry, she cheats on him with her yoga teacher,johan. And personally, I won't stand for incompetance in the laundry room.

looking to get first tracks tomorrow, tuesday.

I thought instead of one choice we should check an overlapping survey to determine when we could get the largest turnout.

what are the possible resorts, and what are the group sizes needed to get discounts at those resorts? And at what discounted price?

I see posts about broken plates. Do we know the conditions and types of breaks? If the bill is not intended to contact the board, what if foam blocks changed the length of the tip allowed to bend, lessening the likeloness of contact. This would also move the stress point right next to the binding where it can handle the pressure. Depending on riding conditions that may cause more nose flex, you can man:eek:age that flex. This would also provide a stable edge length increased by the length of th e block.foam gives you control to interfere pressures and angles without transferring damaging pressure to the plate. you could then micromanage nose flex as mountain conditions change. Opinions?

yes but i have to stop at every mcdonalds along the way for mcgriddles. sorry im a lil retarded. but yea, a 16 hour drive would have to be a 3 day trip atleast to be worth it. Too bad we dont have a graph where we could check all of the dates that work for us, then you take the dates with the largest overlap.

Looks like I'm out for friday unless someone can give me a ride from RiverVale. close to rt 17 or the parkway.

Ill be around that week. If i could swing it, everyday:cool:

ill be there at opening friday

Hey Mel, I'm going this friday. anybody who wants to meet up let me know we will exchange numbers. I dont think i saved your number mel, sorry. Is creek opening at 12 on friday still? That makes 2 renn tigers carving bassist, 3 if mark didn't sell out for my fat bob.

sugarloaf takes me 20 hours. $36 sounds killer though. one of my favorite mountains. I was only at eces for a day, about 6 hours round trip. What time frame has cheaper weekly rentals? i had a rental for under 1000 that slept 12 so $100 per person for a week plus 36 lift tickets would be worth the drive. need a ny / nj border car pool though. in summary whenever the cheap rental rates are in effect i wouldn't mind going. loved stratton too though.

Understood. You are achieving a ride equal to someone who is more talented without immediately increasing your own talent. I doubt anyone reading this confuses that. for example you have "x" talent and are riding a hand me down with the edges ripped off. Your ride perormance is "P". switch the next run to a brand new carver, you still have "X" talent but now your performance is "P" times 100. In the words of Bill Clinton, What's the definition of "Is?"

Love the Loaf

Anyway... If the duck bill intererence happens at a point that prevents board break:biggthump If it happened at a point that caused stresses and breakage... Lets hope it isn't there because someone figured why not, but because it was planned and purpose built.

Because you are removing interference from what the board would otherwise be doing. This is not board performance increase, it is allowing the board to perform at its true potential. Improving suspension does not make your tires better, it allows them to grip like they were intended. resulting in better track performance. A better driver could have had a better lap time, but instead of a change in skill you improved lap time by having more contact time of the tires to the ground thus more time under control and acceleration. But the tires are the same, they are just doing their job more often as compared to someone skidding through a corner because of a suspension not providing proper contact of tire to ground. like i said we are saying the same thing, but looking at it from a different aspect. I would say a plate is not increasing board performance, it is increasing overall performance by isolating undesired interference from the rider. You are saying a plate is making the board better. I am saying it is stopping you from making the board under perform. Theres a subtle difference.

picking my board and boots up from the shop today, no time to drive to vernon and back. thursday?

I would argue that the plate does not improve board performance. It improves rider performance. It is not changing the board in any way. It prevents the rider from preventing the board to act in it's natural way. So, instead of the rider micro managing the board to perfection at every change in terrain, the plate isolates the rider from preventing the board from doing what it otherwise wants to do. Essentially requiring less "talent" to get that pinnacle amount of edge hold. It is not doing this completely for you, but it is making it much easier for the rider, which results in a better overall performance. I think we basically agree on this Jack, we are just splitting hairs for arguments sake. You are right as i added in the last sentence of that post. If the plate resulted in no performance gain it would be pointless. But then again you would also have to concede wearing comfortable socks has little or no performance gain, but there's a reason we wear them.

I disagree with paragraph 2. It's a basic principal that if you reduce the amount of calculations and adjustments required of the rider, you free up his concentration to focus on things such as body position. By reducing the attention required on a given workload you allow an expansion of productivity. More of an efficiency thing. Think of an astronaut trying to guide his flight using manual instruments as if he were in a piper. removing the need for him to micro-manage one thing allows him to focus on a new aspect. Like all areas of life, you lose the romance a little. you are right though, if the plate did not help with edge hold. But from what everyone is saying, a plate allows you to plow through chop and like butter.

DAMPEN--to dull or deaden. DAMPING--–noun Physics . 1. a decreasing of the amplitude of an electrical or mechanical wave. 2. an energy-absorbing mechanism or resistance circuit causing this decrease. 3. a reduction in the amplitude of an oscillation or vibration as a result of energy being dissipated as heat. I think use of either is acceptable. To dull the impact of the nose of the board and the plate to reduce stresses on the board may even be more accurate than decreasing a mechanical wave. As the motion is more of a sudden impact and bending of the board, of which the impact forces are being dulled or deadened, then it is a wave. But you could also argue that going through the turn is in deed causing waves of energy. However, I contend that we are talking about a singular specific intense bend (wave) in the board during an extreme aggressive dive of a turn. The plate idea is something that can benefit a racer by helping the board to over achieve, just as it helps a smooth mountain carve by helping to keep contact and position of the riding edge to maintain a clean line over difficult riding conditions. Similar to being able to steer a race care with power steering and independent suspension, means the driver not having to muscle around a turn compensating for wheel hop. Just as the average car driver benefits from the smoother ride and safety of swerving and maintaining control in an avoidance maneuver around a bend. The duck bill reference is dead on...under the water there's motion like crazy, but up top everything looks smooth. As in a duck paddling its feet like hell.

I have this terrible mountain about 20 minutes away. about 500' trail with almost no slope. I didn't have the time to drive to the mountain so i figured id give it a shot since no one is ever there and a lift ticket is $5. After a fresh foot of powder and no possible way to gain speed, carving just wasn't in the cards. Atleast i had a bunch of liftees talking behind my back about having ski bindings on a board.

I tend to find slower speeds on the bunny slope, expect to have more dings on your topsheet from being run over. If you can get your hands on armor and you feel that you are prone to falling in a painful way, go for it. Don't worry about looking funny, you're riding a "skiboard" you already look weird.

are you the top or the bottom? It would be great if you walked around with him playing copy cat.

well it was a joke, i just mean feedback