Mr.E Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) The Backlands are interesting, but the fit wasn't quite what I was looking for. After poking around some it looked like the Fischer Travers series had a similar set up, but seemed a bit more appealing to me. Picked up a set, and dry fitting into some bindings seems promising. I'll try to get some days on them and share my impressions. Edited January 17, 2020 by Mr.E 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurch Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 100 last; now we are getting somewhere. Link lever spring mod next thanks @Mr.E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.E Posted January 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) I'm curious if the Phantom one will fit. If anyone has a stock Backland, I'd be interested in the width of the link and pin center to center measurement in the locked position. I won't get them on snow until next week at the earliest (depending on conditions), but in carper surfing they seem pretty damn flexible fore/ aft and side to side locked. I'd say stiffer than and Alien, but nothing compared to most HB's. I can't imagine the are fun to actually ski in Edited January 17, 2020 by Mr.E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonbordin Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 Looking at those pins... It looks like a Bomber BTS might fit... Awfully similar to a DeeLuxe. How does the fit differ from Backlands? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.E Posted January 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 (edited) Seems a bit more snug in the heal and mid foot, where the Atomics felt pretty much the same width all the way for me. This of course is with no liner molding in either. The cuff channel is definitely too narrow to fit a BTS without serious mods. I think that's more material than I'd want to remove. Edited January 18, 2020 by Mr.E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philw Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 14 hours ago, Mr.E said: If anyone has a stock Backland, I'd be interested in the width of the link and pin center to center measurement in the locked position. The orange aluminium standard lever on the backland has a centre-to-centre distance of 7cm (distance from the centre of the pivot to the centre of the recess which clips over the bar on the boot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.E Posted January 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 Cool. Travers is 6cm. I'm not convinced I'll need springs with these, but I'll look into it after some riding time. I did fine with old freeride AT boots, so I imagine these will be closer to "soft" flexing for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philw Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 I did not need springs with the backlands, but I did need their increased forward lean as the standard levers (with that 7cm) was not sufficient for my rear boot. I think the Phantom levers will accommodate a range of lengths there as you can see from the design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckmann AG Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 On 1/17/2020 at 3:54 PM, Mr.E said: I'd be interested in the width of the link Width of the link itself, at the distal, 'hook' end is .390". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.E Posted January 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 Awesome. Thanks! The Fischer has a channel in the back of the cuff that the link would best in during walk mode. I'll investigate more. I suspect it would be fine for softening the boot, but maybe a bit unweildly for splitboarding. I bought these for chunder days, so splitting is a secondary academic concern for me presently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.E Posted January 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 Took them out today. Ranged from windblown firm to thigh deep. They rode well- even better when I relaxed the cuff strap. Twice I got the rear toggle to open. Once it closed itself, the second time I manually redid it. Not sure the cause of thatbyet, but neither time did it throw me. Despite what some have stated, I wouldn't choose to ride them in walk mode, but it was controllable. I might replace the liner with something a bit more substantial, and I'll likely add Booster straps. I've always.liked taller cuffs and tongues. These aren't bad height wise, but I think the Booster will make me more comfortable. Today was on F2 bindings with zero issues. I just mounted some Burton's (Ibex/Carve Company/ Phantom toe bail) and they look good to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurch Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 Forward lean position seem ok @Mr.E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.E Posted January 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 Seemed fine to me. Granted it was a powder day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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