big canuck Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) Sooooo I got the boy a kid's alpine board inbound. I bought him some small Burton Wind boots and Physics bindings but not sure I have all the parts..... Can someone post what they're supposed to look like by chance mounted on a board? I have some round cant discs and some rubber angle things that look like they could go under the bindings? Also included was a steel piece that looks like it could go in a Center disc maybe? If this proves futile, were there different heel and toe pieces for the boots to use a std toe bail binder? Some help would be appreciated. BTW the boy is 10 turning 11 and can carve his soft boot board pretty well IMHO AND does anyone have some 4 bolt Center discs for Burton binders they would part with? Thx K Edited November 14, 2015 by big canuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garybergmann Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Kurt, I may have some burton 4 bolt discs, but they are quite old and I'm not sure they will work...I used 'em with my old performance plates. I'll track them down and use them as an excuse to come buy something for my fatbike from Bow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big canuck Posted November 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Sweet. Thanks Gary. I saw a pic of the guy selling the Physics on another thread. Think I got an idea of how it's all supposed to go together. Really appreciate it man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjnakata Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) BC: there's a photo at the bottom of the Carvers Almanac page I hope that helps. BTW, I do have some 4x4 disks. Just let me know Edited November 14, 2015 by rjnakata Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xolufus Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 I'll trade you as many 4X4 discs as it takes to get the Vent Cover... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big canuck Posted November 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 (edited) lol We fixed it guy!!!!! I'll post a pic. It's gonna blow your mind!!!! Gary I would totally appreciate it if you can help me out man! Thx! Edited November 15, 2015 by big canuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garybergmann Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Fired ya' a PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big canuck Posted November 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 (edited) Did Burton make non Physics heel and toe caps to work with a standard toe bail binding? Any one have those avail by chance? It would appear to me the heel receptacles would be prone to getting bunged up with snow..... I want to try them as is. I think the kid would get a kick out of the step in experience. Gar, will get back to you on the discs. Thx again. Edited November 15, 2015 by big canuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCrobar Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Burton Physics Did Burton make non Physics heel and toe caps to work with a standard toe bail binding? I think, if I understand your question correctly, the answer is YES. When Burton shipped their Physics bindings, they included two types of toe options; a standard step-in toe bail system that could be used with any hard boots, and a metal 'speed hook' toe piece that (I think) could only be installed on the toe of Burton Hardboots. Their was only ONE heel option regardless of the boot. It would appear to me the heel receptacles would be prone to getting bunged up with snow..... I want to try them as is. I think the kid would get a kick out of the step in experience. The snow doesn't clog up in them, but the two heel washers can get so 'STUCK' on the metal heel receiver pins that you can not get the binding off. I would pack something like a screw driver, etc that can be used to hammer the pin and wash system loose to disengage the binding; if you don't you may have to leave the boot in the binding and walk sock feet into the lodge. Hope this helps, I think you kids will have a blast with the step ins:) Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big canuck Posted November 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 (edited) Rob, thanks for the info/tips. Answered it perfectly. I'm going to try and get the Physics working and get the boy some Gore tex socks/carry a "dad impaler" in case he can't get out LOL. Many thanks. Kurt Edited November 15, 2015 by big canuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldschool Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 I am selling mine right now. It was a good set up and I never had any problems. You need to lean back and press on your heal to get it to release if it sticks or try tuning the boot cantering positions to be not as tight. The toe piece can be moved forward to create a duck bill for standard binding. The heal need to be replaced with a burton heal ( came with boots hard to find) to creat the duck bill on the rear. The speed hook and step in system works well and has no over hang. Have a look at my boot / binding photos in the for sale. I don't have any photos mounted. I can send you some picks if you need any more help. Good luck. Start them young! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big canuck Posted November 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 Thanks Old School!!! Think I got this dialed, just need some 4 hole discs (which I'm pretty sure I have found) and we should be off to the races here!!! Cant wait to get the boy out there!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.E Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 Call Burton rider services, they have discs (cheap). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big canuck Posted November 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 One more question here..... How do you cant the bindings? I got two round canting discs and a steel silver piece that looks like it could go on the middle of said discs.... The discs can fit together but could you use one on the fr and one on the rr? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big canuck Posted November 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 Its the Unicant that I have.... I see it on the Carver's almanac...... Does anyone have a couple of the discs and the center piece they want to sell? I'd like to cant his fr and rr foot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckmann AG Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 The unicant is good for figuring out cant/lift, but wouldn't recommend it for long term/heavy service, particularly with the leverage of the Physics system working on it from above. I can check the parts boxes next time I'm back at the camp, in the event you don't find a second set sooner. Maybe post a photo of what you have and a description of what you need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.E Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) Those two discs rotate on each other to change the cant/ lift combination. The pivoting metal bit bolts to the board, and the lower of the two cant discs indexes on it. The second/ top wedge locks into that, and the whole assembly is held in place by bolting the binding to the top of the steel pivot. Not super durable, but they are adjustable. Edit- all of these parts make up one foots worth of cant/ lift. Edited November 23, 2015 by Mr.E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big canuck Posted November 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Love this forum. Mr E, 100%. That's exactly what I have and what I want for his front foot. Boom! Lol Beckmann, This is for my 10 soon to be 11 year old's 140 SG I bought here. He's not going to pounding them very hard. When he gets a bit bigger and hopefully still wants to ride an alpine board I'll hook him up with TD's If you happen to have the parts I need I'd sure appreciate the chance to get them from you. Mr E, you don't have these parts you'd sell by chance? Many thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.E Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) I do have a single fixed cant (7degree) I could be talked out of (maybe). They are way more durable. Same as the Ibex ones. Make sure your kid doesn't kick the cant on entry or for snow cleaning. when assembled the Unicant is a a hollow, thin plastic disc. It does ok as a cant (much of the load is in the pivot), but it's not particularly impact resistant. Edited November 23, 2015 by Mr.E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckmann AG Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 So you need a complete assembly then? It will be a few weeks, but I'll see what I have. They should work fine for 'Notyetbig Canuck'. Would not go with the fixed cant as there is no adjustment whatever and that can lead to development of 'bad' movement habits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjnakata Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 BC: Here's an ebay link (not mine) for lot of different cants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big canuck Posted November 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 Ordered a cant disc from Xolufus on Ebay. Thanks again for all your input guys. I'll post video if he doesn't throw it into the trees LOL Much appreciated. KC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.E Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 Post video if he does throw it into the trees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big canuck Posted November 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 LOL count on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big canuck Posted November 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Ok one more question....... Using the "unicant" and the steel spider that sits in the cant ring, do you need longer hardwear for all four holes to attach the binding?? Many thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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