Guest atamme Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 Can somone give me a run down on the differences b/w the two? Is the factory more directly race oriented while the ultra is alittle morw all mtn or is more along the lines of GS vs. SL? Any help would be real nice. A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 factory primes are def more race have a 167 (blue top w/green bottom) it just wants to go down hill FAST. cant really carve it. buddy has a 165? ultra prime much softer/wider waist easier to carve and better on crud. if yer set on aburton go w/ the up. better yet get a madd or coiler :). littele more $$$$ out of pocket though. good luck-chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Randy S. Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 FP=Hard UP=Soft If you are a larger guy (150lbs+) and/or like to carve hard, don't get the UP. You'll break it or at least fold the nose and go a$$ over t1t. You should be able to get a great deal on either board these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagen Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 yep, the UP is softer than the FP. To get into carving I would recomend the UP. For a more experienced carver probably the FP. About the SL/GS comparison - there are SL versions of the FP and also GS versions of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 as Kent would put it the ultra prime is a complete POS go with the FP in particular the 173, 178 or 185 all make good freecarve decks due to the width and the easy going but not noodle stiffness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Doyle Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 I have 2 Madds, a 158 & 170, a Coiler178 a Donek 185 and the 2 FP's (178 & 185 ) that really are my favorites. Go for what you can grow into. If you learn to push it the FP's they will be a blast.:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest atamme Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 Thanks guys that was exactly what I was looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJCdice Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 Besides the stiffness factor, isnt the FP wood while the UP is composite? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 is constructed with a different core but both are wood and the UP is a cap constuction cap=crap in my opinion but some will dissagree with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maciek Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 Originally posted by bobdea ...cap=crap in my opinion but some will dissagree with that I bet F2 and Atomic do not agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Hand Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 I have had both FP and UP and loved them both. I am currently ridding a 160 FP S. There are two different FP the original or the S model the S is a softer board. Its great for everything. It’s a little stiffer then the UP but not as stiff as the FP. The S is right after the width of the board (ie 200s, 190s) Hope this helps Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 I thought that notation was a relic from when they used to have sym and asym FP's? "s" meaning symmetrical, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slow Eddie Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 Originally posted by Jack Michaud I thought that notation was a relic from when they used to have sym and asym FP's? "s" meaning symmetrical, no? Agreed. Those short boards came in "a" and "s" versions for a few seasons. But, being designed specifically for slalom, I wouldn't doubt that they are softer than their GS bretheren. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 Atomic SG and DH skis have sidewalls not cap, at least this was true two years ago. and what is the construction the majority of skis being used on the world cup are? one thing that can't be argued is that caps are a heck of allot easier to break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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