BobD Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 I just bought a pair of 171, but looking around the net, I found this deal on the 163...$312 free shipping http://www.sierrasnowboard.com/Palmer-P02-All-Mountain-Performance-Skis.asp They are rebranded by Palmer Snowboards, but are the same specs as Kesslers. I would have bought them as well, but equipment budgets already blown. BobD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skatha Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 I have to resist the urge to collect another quiver, tho! The size left just happens to be the right size for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobD Posted February 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 So I finally got ou the 171s today. I normally ski on Metrons, Ficsher race, and Dynastar race. It was like going from an FP to a Kessler board. Everything people have said about the new boards, applies to these skis, including the different sound. They were totally effortless. Now I just have to bend the brake arms up as they are dragging in the snow. Hope someone from here bought those 163s. They deserve to go to a real carver. BobD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 Please tell me they weigh half as much as the Metrons or less. I think Metron is a contraction of "Metric Ton". So the Palmers are actually made by Kessler? I wonder if anyone on the World Cup is trying Kessler skis. Gotta admit I'm tempted by Head skis after watching the Olympics! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 I haven't skied regularly for 20 years and it's been about 10 since I last stepped on a pair, but just for the heck of it I rented a pair of Rossignal Avenger 82s at Sun Peaks last week. These have titanal in them as well. Smooooth. You can really feel them just oozing over the terrain, great grip. Skis have come a long way. I'm almost tempted to get into it again but no way can I justify the cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 I tried to buy the 163s about an hour after you originally posted, they were gone already... 157s are too short for me, so I passed on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobD Posted February 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 Please tell me they weigh half as much as the Metrons or less. I think Metron is a contraction of "Metric Ton".So the Palmers are actually made by Kessler? I wonder if anyone on the World Cup is trying Kessler skis. Gotta admit I'm tempted by Head skis after watching the Olympics! They are very light. I read that someone thought they recognized some Head characteristics with the construction. They use the Tyrolia carve plate and bindings that Head do, so that might make sense. I'm going to do some Nastar runs tomorrow, to see if they are fast, as well as fun. BobD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 They are very light. I read that someone thought they recognized some Head characteristics with the construction. They use the Tyrolia carve plate and bindings that Head do, so that might make sense. I'm going to do some Nastar runs tomorrow, to see if they are fast, as well as fun.BobD Ah, so we're not sure if they're made by Kessler or not, eh? Either way, sounds good, and the price is right. My wife needs new skis, the 155 would be good if I can sell her on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 ...I wonder if anyone on the World Cup is trying Kessler skis. No. Gotta admit I'm tempted by Head skis after watching the Olympics! Head race skis are really nice. A good combination of power and forgiveness. Of course, at the World Cup level the brand of skis the big name players use is based on sponsorship money. Racer's skis are all hand built, custom made to what they like and are fast on, so the brand name is meaningless. At that level they all are on great skis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckmann AG Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 My wife needs new skis Find me next time you are up. I've got something she might like to try. And Metrons are great... for Cricket, or paddling your Old Town down the Allagash (can do double duty as a camp axe). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobD Posted February 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Ah, so we're not sure if they're made by Kessler or not, eh? Either way, sounds good, and the price is right. My wife needs new skis, the 155 would be good if I can sell her on them. They have Kessler FLF right on them, and they do not look like they came off a production line. When you use them, the Feels Like Flying FLF makes sense. BobD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Find me next time you are up. I've got something she might like to try. What, Dynastar G9's? ;) We'll be up the weekend after next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckmann AG Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 What, Dynastar G9's? (Ha)3 No. Nothing so exotic. But I do have a pair of something that a few competent skiers have said 'wow' to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Just took delivery of the 155s for my wife. Indeed, they have the Kessler logo right on them - cool!! The skis look great. Deep cut, metal top and botom, decambered noses, and they definitely look handmade. If she doesn't like them I will take them! Thanks for the tip BobD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDZal Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 I saw some of the freeride skis today. They looked really nice. They are very springy. There is some thick carbon in the middle portion of the ski, and the flex felt solid in the middle (especially around the toe area) combined with some early tip and tail rise. Bola has a demo at All Boards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.oldsnowboards.com Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Heavier the better!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobD Posted March 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 The 171s were so good, I had to get another pair while the prices are so silly. There were some 163s on ebay (new w/ carve plate) for $400, but I didn't think there would enough difference from the 171s. So I bought a pair of 155s from Sierra. I took them out on Sat for a real test, rock hard boiler plate. They railed, once I began to believe in them. They also were very snappy, which surprised me a couple of times. It took a little while to get used to the initiation, which feels very different. There is almost a lag, until you incline a few more degrees than usual, then they hook up, and rail. I hadn't noticed that lag with the 171s on better snow. In fact, although my times through a Nastar course didn't improve on the 171s, the transitions were so easy. I have never felt like I had so much time between gates before. In softer snow today, the 151s were pumping turns like there was no tomorrow. Slicing through the chop, like it wasn't there, and springing off any rise to transition in the air. Just a blast. I can't wait to get them on some hero packed powder next season. The 171s ate it up as well. Totally solid. BobD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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caspercarver Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Just took delivery of the 155s for my wife. Indeed, they have the Kessler logo right on them - cool!! The skis look great. Deep cut, metal top and botom, decambered noses, and they definitely look handmade. If she doesn't like them I will take them! Thanks for the tip BobD! I need your advice, i am considering buying these Palmer skis. the skis at Sierra don't come with bindings or the race plate. what would you recommend? I am new to skiing and want be as close to snow as possible like the guy in this video link. currently i can get both hands on the snow but booting out when i try to get my body close. any suggestions? thanks! <object height="385" width="480"> <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BxYBnLJEOc&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="385" width="480"></object> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobD Posted March 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 I need your advice, i am considering buying these Palmer skis. the skis at Sierra don't come with bindings or the race plate. what would you recommend? I am new to skiing and want be as close to snow as possible like the guy in this video link. currently i can get both hands on the snow but booting out when i try to get my body close. any suggestions? thanks!<object height="385" width="480"> <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BxYBnLJEOc&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="385" width="480"></object> sent you a pm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobD Posted April 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 The guy in the video doesn't incline his inside leg extremely, to avoid booting out. The Palmers with the 13mm carve plate and another 31mm from some of the Tyrolia bindings, gets a pretty good stand height. The next place to look is the boot. Many boots have a lousy boot out profile, when you look at the boot from the front. Nordicas are particularly bad. Salomons, not as bad. the best off the shelf boot were the Dolomites carve boots, with 15mm extra lift built in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caspercarver Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 thanks for the info. i have Dolomite boots now, i will have to go home and see what model i have. I am interested in the pair of skis at Sierra which are 155cm @ 10.5R. i tried a pair of Stockli SC 163cm @ 13.5R and was not very impressed. Currently i am using Salomon scream series xr spaceframes, 160cm @ 114/80/108 17.3R. i like them, just turns too big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobD Posted April 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 The external specs seem the same anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 I need your advice, i am considering buying these Palmer skis. the skis at Sierra don't come with bindings or the race plate. what would you recommend? I am new to skiing and want be as close to snow as possible like the guy in this video link. currently i can get both hands on the snow but booting out when i try to get my body close. any suggestions? thanks! If you want 155s with the lifter plate, they're here: http://www.sierrasnowboard.com/Palmer-P02-Freecarve-with-CP13-Lifter-Plate-Skis.asp Sierra doesn't have any other size left, but there was a pair of 163 on ebay recently. I'm not much of a skier, only did two days this year, so I can't give much technique advice. I don't even know if I'm doing it right, but whenever I ski I basically try to do the same things that I do on my alpine snowboard and it seems to work ok. Yeah Bola, the skis say "made in Austria" on them, so they're obviously not built by Kessler. They seem well made though. Does Palmer have its own factory? Or are they made by a big OEM like Elan or Pale? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skwal Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 I need your advice, i am considering buying these Palmer skis. the skis at Sierra don't come with bindings or the race plate. what would you recommend? I am new to skiing and want be as close to snow as possible like the guy in this video link. currently i can get both hands on the snow but booting out when i try to get my body close. any suggestions? thanks!<object height="385" width="480"> <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BxYBnLJEOc&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="385" width="480"></object> Buy a good sandwich ski and have a look for a good plate system like hangl ( http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/4015/20100105a00askibindunge.jpg ) or circle/loipfuehrer ( http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/8346/kompletteplatteinclbind.jpg ). Both can you find sometimes on ebay for less money. edit: kessler/palmer ski made in austria: design: kessler ski:head factory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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