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Hey all, i think this is my first thread.

I'm a 200lbs agressive rider with some experience, i moved to QC Canada about 2 winters ago.

I snowboard every week, last year i broke my Volant that i had for 2 years.

And yesterday i cracked my 169 Burton Ultra prime at almost the same spot.

It cracks (on the top sheet) behind my front bindings (TD1).

What's the deal?

Is it the cold weather, am i too heavy and agressive for those boards?

Do i need to buy a more expensive board?

Please help...

Thanks

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both of those boards are pretty old. not surprising you'd crack them at some point. You can get a modern 2-3 year old board for about the same price you'll pay for a burton...check the "for sale" pages here or just post in the want to buy with your specs and budget. I'm sure you'll find something

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Hey all, i think this is my first thread.

I'm a 200lbs agressive rider with some experience, i moved to QC Canada about 2 winters ago.

I snowboard every week, last year i broke my Volant that i had for 2 years.

And yesterday i cracked my 169 Burton Ultra prime at almost the same spot.

It cracks (on the top sheet) behind my front bindings (TD1).

What's the deal?

Is it the cold weather, am i too heavy and agressive for those boards?

Do i need to buy a more expensive board?

Please help...

Thanks

If you can ride UP without problems, you are not that aggressive. I can fold the nose of UP @170lbs.

Tex might be right. I heard Volant is problematic. And UP is pretty soft for your weight. And also both of them are designed before this centry.

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My Ultra Prime almost killed me driving hard in powder one day. folded right in front of the front binding and sent me flying (right under the lift!). the UP is a piece of crap.

I've had very good luck with my Donek 171 FC1. I've got well over 100 days on it and it's still fresh. BTW - I'm closer to 220. I'm sure the Coilers and Priors are up to snuff as well but have no personal experience with them.

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well that UP lasted about 10 days...

I wasn't aware that TD1's were prone to crack boards.

I'm going to do a search on that but meanwhile, does anybody can tell me why they do break boards?

So Donek or Coiler are better, about Prior?

I'm not slamming TD1's, but there seems to be a lot MORE examples of boards breaking while using them. Recently, a Tahoecarver stated that he broke two O'sin 4807's with TD1's. Everyone else that I know that rides a 4807 with different bindings is still riding their boards.

Like other posters above: aggressive rider, over 200lbs on older boards, with TD1's...bad combo. Switch to TD2's and board breakage will reduce.

I've seen first hand someone sticking the nose of their Virus board in soft snow, in that situation, any binding could cause that. Donek, Coiler and Prior are all top rated boards.

--Hugh

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One of those boards broke because it was a Volant. That sounds like a jest, but it's not - I broke three in one season, and one of them broke on its first day. I believe Volant got out of the snowboard business because they couldn't figure out how to build them.

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Ok, so it seems like the TD1's are causing this.

I understand that the Volant was a older board (i liked the look of it!)and that they were never made to last but i had no idea that UP's were "fragile".

In any case thanks a lot guys for your wise comments i guess i'll start looking for one of those better quality boards and swith to TD2's, anybody wants to sell me one?;)

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Two problems, first on is that you mentioned a Volant. The stainless top sheet ones failed if you looked at them wrong.

Second and the main problem is that you are using TD1's on production boards. Combine that with being heavy and yes you will destroy boards. It's simple physics. You push on the binding, which in this case is a disk located towards the middle of the board. The snow pushes back at the edge. You now have created a lever from the edge, which is getting pushed one way and your TD1 disk, which is getting pushed in the other direction, and yes one day it will break between them.

To solve this you can, ride less, loose weight, ride like a newbie, get custom boards with extra glass to hold up to the binding, or the easiest get different bindings. By the way TD2's don't have this issue.

Sorry I know it's not what you want to hear, but it is the truth.

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When I was riding with TD1's, I always made sure the bumpers were against the board in the static possition. They don't have a very good "fine tune" adjustment and, if they're not "tight", it leaves all the pressure against the base. If I remember right, they came new with some aluminum washers you could shim them with besides the two possitions. Before tightening the plates to the bases I liked to have the plates rock a little, side to side, showing that the bumpers were in good cantact with the board. This led to a few bumper screw dents in the board but, was better than big creases at the edge of the bases.

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When I was riding with TD1's, I always made sure the bumpers were against the board in the static possition. They don't have a very good "fine tune" adjustment and, if they're not "tight", it leaves all the pressure against the base. If I remember right, they came new with some aluminum washers you could shim them with besides the two possitions. Before tightening the plates to the bases I liked to have the plates rock a little, side to side, showing that the bumpers were in good cantact with the board. This led to a few bumber screw dents in the board but, was better than big creases at the edge of the bases.

Exactly! Yes, aluminum washer to "Tune" the bumpers.

Keep in mind, early Bombers had a smaller diam cant disc and NO bumpers.

It was probably during that period of time that the majority of failures occurred.

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Most of the pressure seems to be transmitted to the board through the bumpers as evidenced by the wear marks left by the bumpers. If the bumpers aren't "tight", the bases will leave creases in the board more under the toes and heels than on the sides. Look at these marks left in one of my Coilers by the TD2 plate under my front heel. I can't figure out how the bindings and board flex enough to do this but they do.

Edit: The two different marks are from the two different TD2 base plates.

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