kmagvette Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 I was poking around the web and stumbled into a few posts suggesting that bindings like the TD1 have been blamed for boards failing. Any truth to this rumor? I was considering putting some on a Burton Speed if I find a decent deal. For context. I still consider myself a beginner, moving up (I hope) from a FP 151. I really don't need TDs, but they sure look sweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yyzcanuck Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 Go here for some more reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 it's rare but does happen I've torn out a few boards but more were four hole than burtons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Sub Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 I was gonna say...is it just burton? Cant see how that would be the case. also...wasnt part of the reason the TD2 plate was made larger was to spread energy a little more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobble Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 I have a Volkl Renn Tiger 06 model that appears to have something going on directly underneath my plate front. I have Cateks. One day I noticed the front plate appeared to be loose. After I retightened the screws there still seemed to be some play. I removed the plate and noticed that the topsheet had a very slight bulge. When the plate is mounted the bottom surface bottoms out on the topsheet instead of the elatomer ring. When I push down hard near the inserts it feels like it might be delaminating but I can't be sure. Anyone know if something like that is repairable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbird Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 I have a Volkl Renn Tiger 06 model that appears to have something going on directly underneath my plate front. I have Cateks. One day I noticed the front plate appeared to be loose. After I retightened the screws there still seemed to be some play. I removed the plate and noticed that the topsheet had a very slight bulge. When the plate is mounted the bottom surface bottoms out on the topsheet instead of the elatomer ring. When I push down hard near the inserts it feels like it might be delaminating but I can't be sure. Anyone know if something like that is repairable? If it's delaminating you can use a coin and lightly tap the area...to see what extent your delam is... you'll hear the change in pitch when you tap - Delam is hollow... get a marker and draw where you follow the potential delam area... Could be that the inserts are delaminating from the core.... Get Ye to a very good repair shop..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicHard Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 I had td2 on my old Burton Factory Prime 178: no problem at all. Before that, I had the Race Titanium on the same board for three years: no problem at all. Ciao! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derf Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 I don't know, but Ill see this winter with my new Burton Alp 7.1 with Catek WC mounted on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philfell Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 TD1's were horrible for boards. But Fin fixed many of the problems with the TD2's. Being a beginner I would suggest not considering TD1's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmagvette Posted January 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 The article by Fin that ZZYCanuck linked to makes sense. The conclusion I drew is that stiff bindings are more likely to wreak havoc on a softer board than a firmer board, assuming equally well installed inserts. In my untrained mind: the edge under the bindings has the most weight on it when locked in a turn. When the board hits a bump or the nose grabs, the area from the shovel to the front binding is free to flex (may not be good for the rider) to absorb the energy - this ability decreases as the energy approaches the bindings. When the energy gets to the bindings, the force the rider is exerting on the board does not allow any more energy to be absorbed by the board, so it must be transmitted to the bindings. Since the board is unable to flex further, this transmission is an impulse - all the energy transmitted to the bindings in a very short period of time. Snap. A stiff board would begin transmitting the energy to the binding earlier thereby reducing the magnitude of the impulse at the binding. Time to start drinking... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carp Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 I've got a '99 Salomon FRS 165 with TD1 step ins. I noticed about 2" from the edge of the disk (just off of the rear bumper) that there is a about a 1" diameter compression spot. Could that be delaminating in that spot? I took a pretty good hit to the edge and base last January out west and thought I did a good job repairing it. My guess is the two aren't related but I'm still concerned. Maybe it will give me reason to buy a Coiler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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