Jack M

this makes no sense. but I am reminded of this quote by good ol' unk: "the average person thinks they aren't."

Nope, all the votes are legit. If you voted before the change, it will show your vote in the wrong category in italics, but that's different logic and it doesn't affect the numbers. I'm not surprised. I've seen lots of people at ECES/SES and other smaller gatherings that I would call Masters. I've also seen some WC types that weren't any better at freecarving, so I don't think we need lots of levels between MF and WC/O. Just because you race doesn't automatically mean you're a superior freecarver. I've seen a few examples of people who raced and didn't even know how to carve a "C" in the snow. D-Sub is soapboxing just for the sake of it. This is an anonymous poll, so nobody's tooting their own horn here.

for some reason I am reminded of this.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoGYx35ypus

Isn't Gosling's Black Seal and Barrett's ginger beer the "authentic" D&S? I can't seem to find Barrett's in Maine anymore, but Regatta ginger beer is nearly identical. This is my favorite Rum Punch recipe: http://www.swizzleinn.com/treasure_hunt_2.htm

I have, and no, there is a lot less "decamber" in the tail. You can sort of tell in this pic: I really don't think there would need to be as much, because the tail isn't impacting oncoming terrain like the nose.

Thanks Phil. I am curious about how square Kessler noses are. I know, reduction of swing weight, maximization of running length, etc, but when the board is tilted up I would think the outline of the nose has a lot to do with terrain clearance. If so, wouldn't such a square nose be an issue in bumpy terrain?

My pleasure. By the way, can I cite your post in my upcoming master's thesis? It's entitled "People Don't Read". ;) ;) :p I kid, I kid. :D

Try your RL12's on a new board and get back to us! I've never been able to figure out why snowboard hardboots don't have a 0 forward lean setting.

you two gonna get a room already?? ;) man that sounds like a good idea. ok, spill the beans!

Good thing I am not a Latino man then. Cruzan Single Barrel rules.

:lol: I love this place. Love it. I recommend a balanced stance of equal front-foot-toe-lift and back-foot-heel-lift, with a little outward cant on the back foot. There's an article on this somewhere.

If anything, the 170's nose might be even more abrupt. Great to meet you in person today. You've got a lot of potential there. Thanks for the compliments, but you should have seen that board killing it last weekend when conditions were firm. I'm not a fan of mashed potatoes over ice. Looks like our carving season is over unless there is another dump. Oh well!

No, the boards in the photos are a Madd 180 and Coiler NSR 185.

My bad. When I changed the poll to pull Master Freecarver out of World Cup/Olympic, I moved everything else down one slot and inserted MF at the #2 slot. The system must store your vote as the index of the array. So uhh, you're welcome for the promotion! :)

That's what I did in the pictures marked "middle of board flat on ground". Camera on timer, me standing on board. It would probably be helpful to put this in the articles.

New School Race. Bruce, what's my commission up to? ;)

When the board is up on edge, the upturn actually has little to do with terrain clearance. You could theoretically carve a board with NO upturn, just a flat, rounded nose. But it would catch between turns when the board is flat on the ground!

Coiler NSR 185. I'm borrowing it from bschurman, the guy in blue in the pic. 160Z won't be tested until next season.

1D-IIn + 24-70/2.8L, baby. Like going fishing with a howitzer.

By the way, those hardwood planks are 2.25"/5.7cm wide.

Unfortunately I don't think the X3 (nor X2) qualifies as true new school as the sidecut is single-radius.

+1. The difference (if any) is what I want to find out for myself. Will you put a sock in it?!? Bruce can't read stuff like that!! ;) No seriously, I think at Bruce's price point, he will continue to be comfortably employed for a long time. I think when the price crosses into four figures, even the hardcores will start turning to the classifieds and ebay. Also I think the fair comparison is to skis, not any other sport, and in that light $1500 is still a lot of money.

Here is a picture of the whole board so you can see how the decambered nose relates to the camber of the rest of the board: <a href="http://www.jmphotocraft.com/bomber/nose_decamber_05.JPG" target="top"><img src="http://www.jmphotocraft.com/bomber/nose_decamber_05.JPG" width="600"></a>

That is one good looking outfit!! :D