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Board ordered, have to wait... impatient !!
I will share my feelings !
Thanks all for your advices...
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37 minutes ago, dredman said:
@Ster based on what you are saying I would go 11-12, especially with that length.
Thanks !
You think that length sounds good or should I go a little more ? (169 / 170)
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20 minutes ago, dredman said:
@Ster how steep of terrain will you be riding? What level of riding are you at?
I ride in the Alps (France). It could be very steep !
I have a good level, 20 years of snowboarding, aggressive ride, speed and carve...
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I am about to finalize my order (donek flux ~168cm).
The Flux without customization comes with 8.5-10m SR.
I would like a bigger SR for high speed carved turns.
I am wonderring if I should go with 10.5-12m SR to keep the 1.5m standard difference between max/min or if it would be better to reduce this difference to 1m (10.5-11.5m or 11-12m).
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Regarding variable sidecut radius, is it better to have a big difference or a small one ?
10m-12m (2m) or 10m-11m (only 1m)
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26 minutes ago, pegtal said:
Hi Ster,
Is this a dream program or a realistic program ?
I live in France and your program looks a bit optimistic, unless if you live in the mountains and have the chance to go snowboarding only in deserted resorts with hero snow.Hi @pegtal
I try to ride during the weeks there is the less people.
I ride essentially on big domains, with larges pistes.
A typical day is 60km of downhill. Lot's of high speed runs.
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On 1/4/2024 at 12:24 AM, dhamann said:
Imo, go secret or full titanal.
The standard construction of the Flux is damper than other boards (Incline) with rubber reenforcements. You think the secret construction addon would bring even more and is a good choice ?
On 1/4/2024 at 1:47 AM, Jack M said:I like the sound of the 165cm, 9.5-11m.
You wouldn't go with a larger sr ?
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I think :
75% high speed gs carves
15% trying extreme carve and "c" shaped carves
5% powder
5% play with border of pistes
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3 hours ago, nextcarve said:
Take into account, that with double positive binding angles, your stance will be narrower than with duck-stance and even narrower with higher angles, because you don't spread your legs that much.
Thanks ! Lot's of things to think about !!!
I use to ride with a 63cm duck stance. Have you an idea of the corresponding value if I go with a double positive stance ?
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1 hour ago, staples156 said:
I have the roughly the same foot size as you and am a similar build and I've never booted out with my 29.7cm waist Flux, likely because my stance is +36/+30.
What are the spec of your Flux ? (length, radius, reference stance)
How tall are you ? And weight ?
Did you take the standard flex ?
And what about secret construction ?
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Nice video ! With lots of advices !
I will try to change my angles... try 0 / 21 and see...
26 minutes ago, Neil Gendzwill said:If you are looking to do extreme carving, ultimately duck stance will limit you.
Yes. I will try one more time if double positive could work for me...
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I already tried forward stance, but I really prefer duck stance (around -9 / +24).
I am 43 years old, 190cm 100kg, I am not a freestyler, even if I sometimes like to play with the border of the pistes.
I love high speed runs, with carved turns. I want to improve my carving to extreme carving.
A typical day is about 50km of downhill, max speed 90km/h.
When it is possible (conditions ok), I love powder. But this is rare...
I like to make little jumps on the piste during the ride (slope break or little bumps).
Icy conditions, with steep pistes, I like to hard engage and play with the limits.
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Nota : Donek info
"A flux in 162cm length is typically going to have a variable sidecut radius that starts at 8 1/2 m in the shovel and progresses to 10 m in the tail."
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On 1/4/2024 at 1:47 AM, Jack M said:
31 is up there. You are up against the maximum width of available materials, unfortunately. Shorter radius = wider nose/tail. I like the sound of the 165cm, 9.5-11m. Ride higher angles!
This is what Sean replied :
"You're asking questions about Dimensions that have subtle differences. It's very difficult for me to advise they have never watched Ride On what they should get."
I thought I would have the opportunity to try a Donek Incline 175 next week but not... that sucks ! I will have to make a decision without.
Below, the sidecut radius dimensions (from 9.5-11m to more) to get up to 31cm waist width (with 165cm / 164cm / 163cm / 162cm) :
Flux 165cm :
9.5-11m, 30.2cm
9.7-11.2m, 30.3cm
9.9-11.4m, 30.4cm
10.1-11.6m, 30.5cm
10.3-11.8m, 30.6cm
10.5-12m, 30.7cm
10.7-12.2m, 30.8cm
10.9-12.4m, 30.9cm
11.2-12.7m, 31cm
Flux 164cm :
9.5-11m, 30.3cm
9.7-11.2m, 30.4cm
9.9-11.4m, 30.5cm
10.1-11.6m, 30.6cm
10.3-11.8m, 30.7cm
10.5-12m, 30.8cm
10.8-12.3m, 30.9cm
11-12.5m, 31cm
Flux 163cm :
9.5-11m, 30.3cm
9.6-11.1m, 30.4cm
9.8-11.3m, 30.5cm
10-11.5m, 30.6cm
10.2-11.7m, 30.7cm
10.4-11.9m, 30.8cm
10.6-12.1m, 30.9cm
10.8-12.3m, 31cm
Flux 162cm :
9.5-11m, 30.4cm
9.6-11.1m, 30.5cm
9.8-11.3m, 30.6cm
10-11.5m, 30.7cm
10.2-11.7m, 30.8cm
10.5-12m, 30.9cm
10.7-12.2m, 31cm
Subtle differences, but :
* at what point does the sidecut radius become too large for the board to maintain agility ?
* how small can the board be reduced so that it remains very stable at high speeds ?
What could you suggest me, keeping in mind that I am 190cm tall and weigh almost 100kg ?
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38 minutes ago, dhamann said:
Eu 47 is mondo 30.5 according to upz chart. Measure naked feet while standing in evening cm. It’s not always waist but width at rear inserts that matter most depending on sidecut profile/binding angle. The 165 (or 168) is solid and don’t be shy with the larger sidecut you feel most comfortable with, reading about your higher speed riding and extreme carving aspirations. Consider sidecut depth, not just radii. You’ll probably need to ask Sean specifically for this spec; if he’s willing. Above tree line open piste and firm groom, 30cm wide is “good enough” and better to add a plate when desired. Otherwise at least 30.5 if high snowfall in your area of riding in France. Imo, go secret or full titanal. Sean knows best about the hairs you may be splitting with regards to performance between these options. Working with the board builder is the most important but others feedback can help. It can also sound like noise so take all input with a grain of salt and you make the call. All board makers mentioned above should recommend good things. You’re in good hands and on the right path.
@dhamann Thanks a lot !
I just sent an email to Sean, let's wait and see his point of view...
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Actual boards (waist 28.4cm) : Never Summer Proto FR 166DF and Elan El Grande 171
Boards I tried : Swoard Dual 2 175 (too flex, not enougth stiff), Nitro Pantera 169 wide (not enougth stable at high speed)
Waist width 28.4 is really not enougth for big carve turns. Boot out !!!
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5 minutes ago, dredman said:
@Ster tell us about your riding style, what you want the board to do, and what type of terrain you like riding. Maybe we can help.
Very aggressive ride, with lots of big high speed runs on pistes. Carving and try to improve extreme carving. Few switch, just when needed (technical passages) or when trying 180 jumps for fun (rare, I am too old for it !). Powder when the conditions are ok (rare). I am looking for a very stable board at high speed, able to help me deep carve, and keep ability on difficult passages.
2 minutes ago, Jack M said:What is your boot size in mondopoint?
31cm
This is what I precised on Donek forms :
Aggressive ride, need extreme stability with high speed, want to improve carving.
Not a freestyle rider, I prefer big runs on pistes and I love powder when possible (but rare).
Switch is not what I'm looking for, only exceptionnaly when necessary (difficult passages).
Love to play with limits on icy steep pistes.
My soft boots are EU48, tail angle -12 or -9, nose angle +18 or +21.
Need a very wide board due to the lenght of my boots and low angles -
14 minutes ago, dredman said:
I would get in touch with Donek. They can custom build you exactly what you want. Fill them in on all of your details and riding style and they will build your dream ride...
The North American board builders are all spectacular. Donek, Winterstick, Exegi, Coda, Coiler and Thirst boards are built individually for the rider.
I am in touch with Sean, the current sizing is 165cm with 9.5m/11m radius for a 30.2cm waist width.
I would like to go with 30.5cm at the waist. This could be possible increasing the radius up to 10m/11.5m OR reducing the board length down to 161cm.
Regarding this choice, he cannot advise me... nor for the maximum radius...
So, I try to get riders feedbacks !
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Thanks for your proposition to try your secret construction board, but I live in France... There, I do not have opportunities to try such boards ! So, I do really appreciate your advices, feedbacks and points of view... I have to choose with that ! And, delivery and customs fees are expensive, so I can't order and sell if not ok to order another board... I have to make the good choice at the first time !
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23 hours ago, dredman said:
@Ster The Secret construction is as good or better than a titanal construction board with its dampening properties.
Check out the descriptions for the "Mild" version of the Donek Turner FC https://www.donek.com/product/freecarve/
A few of us will be over at the Moon and Carve event in February. You are welcome to take my Secret Construction Donek Turner Freecarve for a ride to check it out.
Thanks !!
I think I will order a Flux in the next few days...
I would like to have the maximum waist width to avoid booting out (soft boots, EU47, low angles), so I have to reduce the board length and/or increase the sidecut radius.
What do you think is better / less worst ? Reducing board length or increase the radius ?
What would be the minimum board length and the maximum radius you could advice me ?
I am 190cm and around 100kg.
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Hello.
What about Donek Scret Construction ? Someone already tried such a board ? Or would have any information regarding performances ?
Vincent.
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21 hours ago, staples156 said:
I'm about 194cm tall, although I don't think that has a huge effect on which board to ride (despite what most people told me 20 years ago).
Sidecut radius is really more of a personal preference. I find that the 8.5-10m on my Flux is good most of the time, but occasionally I wish I had a bit bigger of a radius. But that's based on my riding style, skill, and local terrain. You may have very different needs.
If you go to the link below, I think you can answer some questions and it'll direct you somewhat, then you can also use the contact form to talk to someone at Donek that can help you pick the specs for your needs.
I am discussing with Sean to finalize my order...
Flux 165-170cm, max wide, radius 10-12m. Have to choose !! Your advice will be precious !!
Do you know the "secret construction" proposed for extra $350 ? Does that be a good choice for the Flux ?
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Someone knows the effective edge for the Flux ?
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Thanks a lot !
How tall are you ?
I actually ride with -9 / +18 angles. That needs a very wide board for carving !
What about the optimal radius ?
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Flux received... Disappointed...
I ordered a board with the "ready to ride tune" addon : not waxed, no tip/tail edge detune...
I ordered a board with the "secret construction" addon : impossible to know if it has been built with that or not...
Custom board, but not what I ordered !!! For such a high price, I am really disappointed