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A week ago, I had my first ride on a Burner 197. I took it out on a midweek day. I fell a couple of times trying to figure it out. It demands speed in order to come back up from a turn. You need to be 'on it' to ride it. I spent about 3 hours riding it. As you write above, the Burner does feel solid, and turns shorter than it's length. Having said that, the side-cut radius is 19m. While I didn't have any problems turning it on fairly narrow trails (East coast), I kept missing the turns to get to the trail I wanted to get to (a function of my focus and the boards side-cut radius I believe). Or maybe I was having fun and kept forgetting. I wanted to try a different board after a few hours, although I was tempted to stick it out and keep riding it. I felt like the board would be much better used on a larger mountain where you could add more speed over larger turns. After lunch I switched to a 2003 Coiler 180cm, and was immediately back in euphoric heaven feeling like I was having a super-day on an easy turning board. The Burner doesn't have a modern easy turning shape. But, it will turn, just seems to demand more from the rider than today's boards. That's what it felt like to me; I'm not sure I'm being fair though, as the length and side-cut of the board are way different to the 180cm I was riding.

I guess that is why they have a bumper under the duck-bill, to reduce that point load.

Can you guys post some pics?

He probably figured that a professional thief would have brought his own tools of the trade.

Yeah, bought most of my carving boards and bindings from the forum, one from ebay, a couple new from manufacturers/store (back in the day). Purchased parts from bomber store and Catek and sold a few things via the forum also.

Good news from the ski-shop. Two base patches, clamping, and they'll fix the other dings doing normal P tex repair. I won't have it back for a while, but it will be fixed right.

I like the Troy Lee Design helmets. They come with a nice cover and a bag to carry them in. They are pretty light too, for a full face helmet. I think I have the D2 model. There is now a D3 model. http://www.troyleedesigns.com/index.php?

On the TD2 step in bindings. If you want to go standard, rather than stepin, you can easily convert them to standard TD2's by purchasing the standard front and rear bails and lever assembly, and heel block. OK, that'll add up fast though. Perhaps you could trade your step-in parts for someone's standard parts.

Heading to Ski Beech Tues 2/21/12. Gonna bring the 197cm Burner, I think. Anyone interested in tearing the slopes up? Should be a nice day, sunny, and will have been cold the last couple of days, so they should have made some snow.

Thanks, Trent. I should have what I need now, folks. Thanks.

True true...So, were the screws too long - did you discuss this with Bomber?

Yes, I was wondering that. I think I'd have let the manufacturer deal with your problems.

Trent - SOLD. Thanks. Can you PM me, and we'll do the deal by email. Paul

LOL. I have a couple of 190cm+ boards already, if I didn't have them, I'd be all over this.

How many full turns are you getting on those screws....hate to reopen that nutshell...?

Rant off..... I will probably try and hit Beech 2/25, 2/26.

Yeah, and not to whine, but the main lift at Sugar is a slow 2 person. The new lift at Big Red is a slow 2 person. How about a high speed quad guys, especially when you are putting in a new lift; but really I can see that on Big Red there isn't the traffic. They need one bad on the main run from the bottom. And the lift to get to Big Red (that less people use) is a 3 person (where it's not really needed, as folks didn't seem capable of figuring out how to get on lift with three people - I invited one person to join me, and he said he wanted to ride with his friend - it's a 3 person lift guys, you can both get on); the two person wide lanes to the lift don't help out either, as it appears to be a 2 person lift from the entrance lanes :-) The worst part was that the main lift had one person checking tickets, which bottle-necked people getting onto the lifts, so some lifts went up without people on it, or just one person (if they could get to the lift on time). An extra person checking tickets would have got more folks up the mountain and reduced lines.

Click here 1:38mins for a good pic. At least that's how Donek does it.

Use a dremel or rotozip, and a metal cutting disc on your bolts. Put the bolts in a vice with the jaws on the head of the bolts, or put a couple of nuts on it, and put those in the jaws of the vice. Yeah, you need shorter bolts. With the roto-zip/dremel cutting disc, you can have this done in a couple of minutes per bolt. It's an hours work or so including the filing, and running them through a die afterwards.

The topsheet says SG Full Race 163. But I'm sure it's the Titanal model. I'm 225 lbs, and it's plush, feels perfect. I don't have to push it at all.

Thanks OntSB58, but looking for a set of OS2's only.

Ahh, good conditions. They were blowing all weekends. My only complaint, was with all this snow, how about putting a little on the lift down-ramps to cover the large amount of boilerplate ice. I was thinking of setting up a video camera. I fell twice myself, and there were pile-ups after pile-ups. The lift-guy just sat in his box, and pretended not to see anything.

Set it up with Catek OS2 SI's, a re-purposed kitchen cutting board as a board protector. Sugar Mountain, NC. Slalom racing Sat, NASTAR course Sat (2 runs). GS racing Sun, NASTAR course Sun (2 runs). I got three runs on it before the first race, loosened the legs up. It's my first wider-style modern shape metal board. I did put a few runs on a Bomber Plated SG 185 at SES last year. The board camber is interesting; clearly it has a rockered nose that starts about a foot behind the tip of the nose. It has traditional camber also in the middle of the board So, on the first run down the slalom course, I couldn't believe how damp and smooth the board felt. It seemed like the board stuck to the course, and I had to put about 1/2 as much effort into the run as I normally would. My first run, I was in and out of the ruts on the course, without any wobbles when going in and out. Turn shape was perfect for a slalom course. Over the course of the weekends riding (on SL, GS, NASTAR), I had to watch myself, as on the easy gates, I turned a bit too much too early, and had to readjust my angle to the next gate. After racing I started riding the groomed slopes. I was able to get the board way on edge, and the ground came up and met me nicely. The board is very confidence inspiring. Hitting ice, I occasionally lost the edge and regained it quickly without any wobble. This one is a keeper, at least I hope so. Over the course of the weekend, the board took a few rock hits. Looks like 2 small core shots. It's off to the repair shop this week to see what can be done. The board was purchased used, and looks like it's got about 50% of its original life left. I'm hopeful that it can be repaired and put back into service. Lots of compliments from the skiers on my riding this weekend. And after an early season of managing to get Bronze placing in NASTAR (on a mix of GS and soft-boot boards), I got 4 Silver placings this weekend on this board.

Riding a SG 162cm full race. Heard this twice today - did you cut the end of your board off?