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Echo @Odd Job A proper coach and a training program is your best way forward and guidance as to whether you have the ability to go that far. You will also need someone with plenty of money to support you cause proper gear, and cost of training, competition and travel are not cheap.
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You may get more response with posting video and a request for feedback in the Carving Central section. Video of you free carving will also be useful for feedback. A racecourse constrains your turns and sorts riders well if it's difficult to ride smoothly.
Is your goal USASA racing, NASTAR, or ...?
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Welcome Evan. Are you after race technique tips or general carving tips?
I have collated a whole range of carving snowboard videos, including some instruction videos, into playlists at
https://youtube.com/channel/UUCbFkVPcmsd5oH-Oe0s3LEM
You may find Marc Cirigliano's Midweighting series helpful.
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I watched the linked video and had more thoughts about Rodeo hand/arm.
Here the rider appears to be deliberately practicing a slarved entry to a carved turn, a technique often used by racers. To do that they unweight the board at transition and twist/slide the board round to an angle closer to the fall line before the board edge grips and the carved part of the turn starts.
Newton's 3rd Law of motion: For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.
That action, of twisting the lower body and board while effectively weightless, is achieved with a reactive rotation of the upper body in the opposite direction. As the board them grips and begins to carve, the rider recovers the co-alignment of upper and lower body. We see the swing round of the arm on the outside of the turn, "Rodeo hand", as that realignment occurs. The more forceful the original lower body rotation, the greater the degree of recovery required. A very energetic and dynamic turn!
Conversely, in a completely carved turn, where only edge change happens at transition and the curve of the edge drives the turn, there is nil/minimal rider rotation and so minimal recovery needed. A very smooth and energy efficient turn.
Anf of course, there will be turns made where the rider gets out of shape & off balance and that same arm movement occurs as the upper body is brought back into realignment just as a recovery movement.
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On 5/30/2022 at 1:54 AM, west carven said:
howdy
a race style of free carving? ...
Thanks @west carven
I played it in slo-mo and wondered more about the function of "rodeo arm". I'm beginning to think it is an overt sign of a very functional and deliberate transition in lower body direction at a time when the rider is unweighted. A feature, not a bug!
I'm going to put my thoughts in the Rodeo arm thread.
I learned other stuff from watching. Rider seems to be deliberately practicing a slarve entry into the turns, and clearly annoyed when he stuffs one up towards the end. Practice makes perfect.
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Actually it's (tricky doing the acutes on my phone keyboard)
Federation Internationale de Ski (FIS)
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How long till it's an Olympic sailing event? Has speed, technology, & spectacle. I'd be surprised if it doesn't make it.
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2 hours ago, west carven said:
howdy
a blast from the past (feb2017) ... Alpine Snowboard Master's Riding ( TEAM Allflex ) ...
From the same session. A slo mo edit from a high def video on Vimeo (URL reference in video).
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9 hours ago, Jarcode said:
@Carvin' Marvin
Part of my problem is also the high forward lean I opt for in my rear (right) foot. On my 700Ts I actually installed a heel lift inside of the boot so I could use more forward lean without straining my ankle... but that setup likely applies even more pressure to the front of the foot.Binding lift could achieve the same result without having to compromise boot fit.
F2 standard wedges give about 4 degrees. Bomber TD bindings can have 6 degree cant discs. I have custom wedged the toe and heel pieces of my TD3s by an extra 3 degrees as part of experiments with 9 degrees of rear boot heel lift, and for combos of lift and cant for skwal riding.
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For non-drone fliers, the pilot sees the course in that grainy, poorly tuned colour TV quality. The drone is as twitchy as anything and any manoeuvre requires adjustment of throttle, pitch, yaw, and roll axes, all while tracking the guy on the bike at speed. This nothing like flying a DJI Mini with inbuilt stabilisation.
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https://youtube.com/channel/UC66UPX-vOHTb5PEWBqzmCwg
Short video Skwal Festival 2022
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https://youtube.com/channel/UC66UPX-vOHTb5PEWBqzmCwg
Short video Skwal Festival 2022
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Ever tried flying a drone in full acro mode with analogue FPV? Both the riding, and the flying, in a crowded, hazard strewn urban environment are mind boggling.
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My original interest, and starting the discussion, was because in video of my own riding I had noticed a much less pronounced but similar motion of my outside/rear arm on heelside turns and was interested in understanding what was producing it.
Thanks to all who have contributed so far, and to the poster of the original video. @west carven
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Ash, above, has really nasty "Rodeo hand". @ 1:25
See below. Not meaning to cause offence.
He (Ash) is having fun at that point in the video. His actual carving is stylish, powerful, and worth watching.
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A trick to riding any board all day is to learn efficient technique, with good shock absorption through your knee and hip joints. That becomes energy saving riding, that allows lots of turns, lots of vertical metres (feet) and lots of fun. My aim is always weary legs by the end of the day, rather than being done by lunchtime.
PS: I've ridden an MK. If I didn't have a KST 162 I probably own an MK.
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Follows on from a short discussion of this in the Softboot carving worth watching thread.
Watching videos in slow motion of carvers I suspect what is called "rodeo arm" is due to effective separation of trunk and lower body during a heel side turn. That is the lower body is driving the board into the turn and down and across the fall line. The rider's trunk is staying relatively close to it's orientation in the earlier part of the turn. The rider's arm appears to "flail" as the rider's trunk catches up with the lower body as the turn progresses. Most obvious on heelside because the rider is turning away from the relaxed trunk direction imposed by their stance across the board. Less or not obvious on toeside because turn direction and stance direction align. Most obvious on riders with pronounced cross board stances, still present but much less on riders with more forward facing stances.
Interested to read others analysis and points of view.
Added 8th May: Interested in part because I've seen a similar but smaller movement in my own arm in video of my heelside turns.
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4 hours ago, Eastsiiiide said:
Kenevo on 27.5 x 3.0s. (pictured with the stock 2.8s)
Mods are fatter tires, slightly narrower handlebar, slightly longer stem, ergon cork grips, stiffer spring on the rear shock. I ran DIY pool noodle inserts for a while and liked em but haven't felt the need lately.
Very fun bike.
Does the front end tend to lift off uphill (saddle seems a long way back)? Or what is that on your seat?
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No, but you do have to watch out for the cave trolls at the Weta workshop corner on the road route back to the top.
It gets a lot of use, and many of New Zealand's native trees are evergreen, not deciduous.
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Ragley Big Al 97.5er (mullet hardtail), 2.6" tyres with Tannus tube tyre armour running 12psi front and 18 psi rear, boost hubs, 4 pot Shimano brakes on 180mm discs, 1x11 with clip-in pedals, 120mm dropper, 35mm stem with 780mm handlebars.
Jailbrake is a favourite trail about 4km from my garage door. Hardtails work your quads uphill and down.
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On 4/21/2022 at 11:03 PM, Corey said:
Ken Lau made an epic video about the Aspen 2010 WCS session. I saved a copy but can't find it online to share. He had a graceful side shot showing him carving, then switched to a knee-cam of the same turns. The contrast was striking!
Reloaded a backup copy I had of Ken's video to YouTube.
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We are told the Contra sweet spot is high on edge. That tells you that the flex of the board is a very significant part of the shape of the curved path the board will follow. SCR is only a part of the story.
The linked thread is a discussion of the interaction between SCR and long axis flex.
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Straightliner!
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We "crave the carve". I describe the sensation of a really carved turn as being as addictive as a drug.
I can happily do the same run over and over, but I do seek out different lines to carve on that run. I enjoy runs with a variety of gradient. I love runs that have banked walls to carve on, and bottom turn on, and rise and fall and rise and fall. If I can't carve it, then the trail is just a means of getting to where I can.
But that feeling of playing with gravity, that G-force pull as the board arcs across the fall line into and out of the turn. That is my drug, my addiction, my dopamine hit par excellence!
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I see powder so rarely that that is always an unfamiliar experience, where my brain is concentrating on just staying upright mostly. I have had moments where the board starts to float and flow and that playing with gravity feeling arrives.
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Who's Lift's Are Still Spinning?
in Carving Central
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Meanwhile, on the other side of the Equator, NZ fields are just starting to open for the season.