AgassizSkidder Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) I’m looking for a 169 or 174 Prior 4WD that is in good condition. Edited February 4, 2020 by AgassizSkidder Update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonbordin Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) Dude... Prior 4WD are a cool board and all... But it's not going to get you across that washout! Edited February 3, 2020 by lonbordin Sorry... Not sorry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgassizSkidder Posted February 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 @lonbordin lmao true! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Edges Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) I have a Prior 4WD 174 ... It just might! (Sorry, mine's not for sale) I do have a Prior custom 4WD 180cm with a little carbon added. PM for pics or details. Edited February 3, 2020 by Rusty Edges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgCarve Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 Just in case you do not have experience with Prior boards, I just want to share mine… I own two: 4WD 174W, WCRM 173W. 4WD is not as versatile as it sounds from website description. 4WD has a bigger nose, which should help in some variable conditions. However I found WCRM can do all the same terrain as 4WD. For me 4WD is more fun in softer snow preferably with good grooming. It has lots of tail pop. It can launch you far and high between the turns :-). Super fun. WCRM does not have that much pop (very typical for metal boards). But can carve in the same conditions as 4WD plus on icy and very bumpy terrain. 4WD just has too strong vibrations in such conditions. Not fun. Depending on what you want, any of these boards can be a great choice. I mostly ride in bad conditions and I choose WCRM more often than 4WD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgassizSkidder Posted February 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 @dgCarve Thanks. I appreciate that. I have a 177 WCRM and love it. My goal moving forwards it to have more fun and ride the whole mountain. I have been focused on carving and I’m just about ready to accept that I am never going to progress further as I have only seen two other hardbooters in the past decade. Unfortunately I can’t afford to go to Vancouver to get lessons. I want a board that is softer, slightly shorter and that can handle going off piste and surf off some banks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgCarve Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) I see. Actually I find that 4WD is stiffer than WCRM. It is easier (not that big difference, but still) to bend/decamber WCRM that 4WD. With the same effort I do smaller turns on my WCRM board (even though WCRM has bigger SCR). For true "all mountain" I just ride regular board with hardboots. Plus I have ordered wide Coiler Contra. Cant wait to try it... Edited February 3, 2020 by dgCarve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgassizSkidder Posted February 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 @dgCarve thanks for the advice. Maybe I’m overthinking. The website says it is softer and I thought the nose would have more lift than the WCRM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) I have a 4WD 169 that you can demo and I can possibly sell. I ride all-mountain style a lot and I found that I prefer wider boards then 4WD's 21.4cm. Anything between 22.5 and 25.5 for my smallish boot size... Nose design and overall flex pattern are also super important. Recently, I've been riding a Dynastar 3800 163 a lot, in all sorts of conditions. It's a pow board that carves well and rides switch well... I probably can put you in touch, to get one cheaply. Or we do a demo day, where you can try at least 6-7 all-mountain boards I've got? Oh, and ditch the TD2s for all-mountain... Edited February 4, 2020 by BlueB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 It's been long time since I rode 4WD 174 and WCRM 173W back to back, but I'm certain that WCRM is stiffer and holds edge better. Funny enough, it does have better nose profile - more modern design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
212swat Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 On 2/2/2020 at 9:19 PM, AgassizSkidder said: I’m looking for a 169 or 174 Prior 4WD that is in good condition. You can buy a new one for about $570 USD. Use code TREELINE for 20% off ($759 CAD). https://www.priorsnow.com/collections/4wd-snowboards/Mens 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgassizSkidder Posted February 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 @BlueB thanks for the offer. I got an older 169 4WD offered to me cheap and he’s on the North shore. I do have a 3800. Just one of the threads is stripped so I haven’t ridden it in years. It’s a fantastic board. I’m out of work at the moment but I am hoping to be able to get lessons from you next season. Otherwise I would absolutely have come out to Cypress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 Ah, good, I'm glad you are set! Maybe put a helicoil, or re-thread that insert on 3800. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgCarve Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, BlueB said: It's been long time since I rode 4WD 174 and WCRM 173W back to back, but I'm certain that WCRM is stiffer and holds edge better. Funny enough, it does have better nose profile - more modern design. 4WD is not stiff board, WCRM too. And both boards are easy to decamber. But take into account that I am tall and fit guy with 205lb weight . Construction wide boards are very different, and comparing stiffness of this boards without context is like oranges to apples. WCRM has more liner stiffness as you continue to bend it, 4WD has stiffness which grows more exponentially as you bend it. When I push the WCRM with the same or less effort than 4WD, I get same turn sizes, however 4WD has 2m smaller SCR. But if I do not push the boards and just "park and ride" - simply letting SRCs do the work, then WCRM will do bigger turns. I find that stiff board does not guarantee best edge hold. From my experience in harder snow/ice softer flex holds edge better (of cause if it is damp enough). Foe example my custom Donek FC Secret Construction is much stiffer board than WCRM, but it does not hold edge on ice as good. However in soft snow it can be dangerous to ride too soft flex . Edited February 4, 2020 by dgCarve 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 Um, I didn't mean that WCRM had better grip because it's stiffer, I was just stating two characteristics in the same sentence. Better grip is from more refined geometry/flex, better materials (titanal) and torsional stability... I know that you know your boards... you worked for Prior at some stage, right? I basically agree on most of the stuff you said, but not on 4WD being stiffer / progressively stiffer, or WCRM turning tighter. The very nature of a race board calls for being progressively stiffer as the forces grow, so the racer doesn't blow the line. Also, the W model was a fair bit stiffer then the regular 19.5cm, as Chris decided to use the same core profile on both widths. Maybe we can get @CarvingScooby to do a scientific flex test for us - he's got both 4WD 174 and WCRM 173w... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgCarve Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 32 minutes ago, BlueB said: I know that you know your boards... you worked for Prior at some stage, right? Were is carvers love? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 I'm actually not fighting with you and wasn't sarcastic. Just having a discussion about boards (it's a favorite off-snow ASB pastime, after all). Yes, carvers love is good. We should ride together sometimes! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) Oops, now I see that I have mixed you and Rusty Edges, with that "worked for Prior" comment. No wonder you thought I was sarcastic... Sorry. Edited February 5, 2020 by BlueB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgCarve Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 I should take at trip to Whistler or Cypress someday! It is very close to me. And I really want to meet some good carvers to learn from, as I learning everything by myself right now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 Sounds good. PM me if heading this way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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