TJR Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 Just picked up a pair of UPZ boots- was fitting the boots to a TD3 binding and found the need to shave the boot a tad, may have to shave a bit more.... has anyone has the same issue/done the same thing, recommendations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddy Tat Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 I've heard of people having to do this but I've used UPZ RTR's and ATBs in TD3 step-ins with fintecs with no clearance issues or requirement to shave anything. I just received a set of RC-10s to replace my RTRs; while I haven't tried them in the binding I'm not anticipating any issues with them. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.oldsnowboards.com Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Just picked up a pair of UPZ boots- was fitting the boots to a TD3 binding and found the need to shave the boot a tad, may have to shave a bit more....has anyone has the same issue/done the same thing, recommendations? Providing photos would really help in a case like this. Are you talking about the toe, the heel ? From the sides , bottom , top? More info and photos please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJR Posted October 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Providing photos would really help in a case like this. Are you talking about the toe, the heel ? From the sides , bottom , top? More info and photos please. I'll post photos tomorrow, but it's the toe bail, fit's fine at the front of the boot, but where the bail is attached to the lug, tight fit there.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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www.oldsnowboards.com Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 I have seen a wider bail that uses a small spacer at the shoulder bolt before. I haven't seen the TD3 version but it may exist? Can you put the boot in the binding and snap a photo of that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teach Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 I have this problem with my older TD3s but nor with my Sidewinders (using M29 RTR boots). Michelle told me the toe bail design changed slightly and I have yet to get the new toe bails for the TD3 standards. Maybe your SW have the older toe bails? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_1 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 It looks like those are the touring soles. I had the same issue with mine. I switched them out with the snowboard soles rather than grinding. Are your boots the ATBs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 That's Atb boot, isn't it? AT boots are known to be wider at the sole. I believe that using the rear shoulder pieces solves the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 I recall seeing some Japanese alpine store where they ground the AT soles to fit better on TD3 bindings. I can't find it now though... :( Sorry. They basically removed anything that's close to touching the bail along the sides. I've found that you also need to watch the sole thickness on the regular UPZ plastic soles. Mine had wore down from walking and were allowing the body of the boot to brush the sides of the toe bail. One of my bails broke at SES; I bet this was at least a partial cause. Either way, I resolved it with a layer of shoe goo on the sole to build it up again. Bonus side effect: less slipping while walking on polished concrete! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeho730 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Not needed on my upz rc-10 boots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilux Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 I've found that you also need to watch the sole thickness on the regular UPZ plastic soles. Mine had wore down from walking and were allowing the body of the boot to brush the sides of the toe bail. One of my bails broke at SES; I bet this was at least a partial cause. Either way, I resolved it with a layer of shoe goo on the sole to build it up again. Bonus side effect: less slipping while walking on polished concrete! Hmmm, noticed that with mine too starting to wear but they aren't too bad at this point. Would you be able to snap a couple pics with the shoe goo? You literally just applied shoe goo right onto the sole? That's a great idea b/c those sole pads are soooo slippery! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJR Posted October 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Hmmm, noticed that with mine too starting to wear but they aren't too bad at this point. Would you be able to snap a couple pics with the shoe goo? You literally just applied shoe goo right onto the sole? That's a great idea b/c those sole pads are soooo slippery! My biggest worry is that it will release at high speed, here's a pic of the boot in the binding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJR Posted October 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 They are, where would I pick up a pair of snowboard soles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJR Posted October 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Blue B, rear shoulder pieces? Not sure what you mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Hmmm, noticed that with mine too starting to wear but they aren't too bad at this point. Would you be able to snap a couple pics with the shoe goo? You literally just applied shoe goo right onto the sole? That's a great idea b/c those sole pads are soooo slippery! I scratched the toe area quite aggressively with a knife and hacksaw blade so the shoe goo had more surface area/roughness to grab on to. It's held so far, but I've probably walked less than a few hundred feet on pavement/concrete since. I've fallen a couple of times plus had countless slips with the combo of the silly plastic toe pads and the fairly hard Fintecs. See posts 103 and 104 of this thread for a fairly good solution for walking longer distances in UPZs. I should add that I'm running step-ins/Fintecs. I'm not sure how the relatively squishy shoe goo would handle clip in bindings. Either way, you need to readjust the bail spacing once the goo has cured. Toe of boot, with arrow indicating area that I took a round file to in order to have extra clearance to the bail: Side view of boot in binding: View to show small clearance between bail and boot after adding shoe goo and filing notch in boot: Before that work, the bail was touching the boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilux Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 (edited) They are, where would I pick up a pair of snowboard soles? Bomber store doesn't stock UPZ so check link below. Dan Yoja has got them http://www.upzboots.com/pricelist.html Edited October 27, 2013 by Hilux Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilux Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 @ Corey: Thanks for posting those! Yikes, those toe pads are quite worn down. I do also have step-ins (converted standards) so should be similar results. Might be worth a shot to benefit from the grip even though mine aren't worn as much as yours. @ TJR - Apologies for minor thread-jack! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJR Posted October 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 @ Corey: Thanks for posting those! Yikes, those toe pads are quite worn down. I do also have step-ins (converted standards) so should be similar results. Might be worth a shot to benefit from the grip even though mine aren't worn as much as yours.@ TJR - Apologies for minor thread-jack! Thanks for the input everyone, I'll look at grinding first and then maybe new snowboard bottoms. No apologies needed TJR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Blue B, rear shoulder pieces? Not sure what you mean You should probably ignore my idea. That used to be a fix for TD2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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