kieran Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/01/30/tweet_deportation/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburrill Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/01/30/tweet_deportation/ Good thing they didnt bring their race boards packed in board bags that say "BOMBER" on the outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobD Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 I was going to post that earlier. How often do we talk about destroying a run with trenches? If the analysis of flagged traffic doesn't run to provincial use of English language, I would be worried about what they are missing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philw Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 I kind of wondered what they must do with the ESTA data, and here's an example from the wild of its use I guess. Having read the report I can see why an average immigration official (from any country) may well take pleasure in reducing their cockiness a bit. I'm always at my most polite when asking to visit someone's country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.oldsnowboards.com Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/01/30/tweet_deportation/ Good example of "Dumb and Dumber" or what NOT to Tweet. Get a clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.oldsnowboards.com Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 I'm always at my most polite when asking to visit someone's country. I do the same, play by the host countries rules. You are in our sand box now!!! Play nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltacer Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 I they followed these rules, they probably wouldn't have been deported... <iframe src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/uj0mtxXEGE8" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="420"></iframe> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekempmeister Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/01/30/tweet_deportation/ watching. ..............and listening. to everything. for about 25 years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobD Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 watching. ..............and listening. to everything. for about 25 years now. But years ago it wasn't used for rooting out people that post silly things on twitter. It was used discreetly for real intelligence work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekempmeister Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 But years ago it wasn't used for rooting out people that post silly things on twitter. It was used discreetly for real intelligence work. you are correct, BobD. instances such as the one that prompted this discussion are silly and frivolous, at best. particularly when so much real work need be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobD Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 you are correct, BobD. instances such as the one that prompted this discussion are silly and frivolous, at best. particularly when so much real work need be done. I guess this a consequence of the new inter agency intelligence sharing. Intel that never got out the intelligence communities hands before is now filtering down to the less intelligent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) To the point that they are watching Twitter, I say so? It's public info. If the analysis of flagged traffic doesn't run to provincial use of English language, I would be worried about what they are missing. Excellent point. If they can't understand colloquialisms, how could they possibly catch wind of anything serious? <iframe src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Qa1rjCZxtxo" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="420"></iframe> Edited February 3, 2012 by Jack Michaud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philw Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 From the UK to visit the US, we have to fill out advance notification through ESTA. They know we're coming. I think it's obvious what they're going to do with that information. Tweets are publicly available, although connecting them to an individual is more complicated. Unless they posted obviously personal identifiable data in their Twitter dribble then you'd need a warrant to locate the source in the UK in the general case. If they were thought to be a serious threat they'd have not been flying. They let them get to LAX then interviewed them. Most of the internet "news" stories are just reporting each other, they don't have any original source information. The US Customs and Border Protection are quoted as saying: "Information gathered during this interview revealed that both individuals were inadmissible to the United States and were returned to their country of residence." and inadmissibility "could include improper travel documents, prohibited activities or intent, smuggling of contraband or prohibited goods or criminal activity or history". So they're not backing the destroyers' story. For all we know the destroyers arrived drunk and the immigration guys didn't see the joke - all things considered I doubt they'd refrain from drinking all that free booze. Every so often we have people joking about security; I always think they're lucky not to get killed. "Destroy" would be used as in "I'm going to get destroyed", but not really as they used it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobD Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 I don't doubt that the guy was pretty undesirable as well as dumb and not someone to welcome with open arms. It's just a reflection on the smarts of the TSA that he was told about monitoring the twitter feed. This is pretty minor, but it's another example of operations winning out over intelligence, and the recent (ten years) trend toward boasting about capabilities, while politicians protect their butts with public legal opinions, rather than taking responsibility as previous leaders have done. On an economic note, I know that many Europeans are reticent about travel to the US because of mistakes under the previous administration with innocent people being interrogated, or even disappeared and ending up being tortured. This story would never have made the headlines without the chatter monitoring connection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekempmeister Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 it is still nice to live where one is not automatically on cctv the second they step out the front door leaving home. ....nice also to not have a social worker knock on the door when one has purchased more alcohol of late than in the past. ....the only place i've ever been stripped searched was Heathrow. (they were exceedingly polite, though) just sayin'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobD Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) it is still nice to live where one is not automatically on cctv the second they step out the front door leaving home. ....nice also to not have a social worker knock on the door when one has purchased more alcohol of late than in the past. ....the only place i've ever been stripped searched was Heathrow. (they were exceedingly polite, though) just sayin'. I like living without those things too Also license plate reading cameras in police cars (and other places) linked to central computers. Edited February 4, 2012 by BobD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekempmeister Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 at least, on either side of the pond, we are free to chew gum! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kieran Posted February 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 http://ca.news.yahoo.com/muslim-man-workplace-quip-made-terror-suspect-211334769.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobD Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 http://ca.news.yahoo.com/muslim-man-workplace-quip-made-terror-suspect-211334769.html The sad part is that that guy is lucky. If it had happened several years ago, he would have woken up in some North African prison with electrodes on his genitals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skatha Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 But years ago it wasn't used for rooting out people that post silly things on twitter. It was used discreetly for real intelligence work. ....the massive privatization and outsourcing of both security and intelligence work in the country...now companies like Xe need to invent "terror threats" to justify their massive governmental contracts. Robert Gates himself said there were a tremendous number of contract workers in the DoD and he didn't know what half of them were supposed to be doing....don't get me started on how private prison companies invest in lobbyists hired to fight legal reform of drug laws... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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