Flyin Hawaiian Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 I think I can explain this easy, so let's see. I bought some palmer risers and I'm putting them on my board. Do they angle with your bindings or do they stay fixed ("wings paralell with board) with the edges of the board? Pics attached which pic is correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buell Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 The "wings" angle with the bindings to give solid support under your toe and heel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin Hawaiian Posted February 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Makes sense. I am not doing extreme angles but I may have to shift them a bit. Even 20 to 30 degrees require shifting the risers a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heroshmero Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 I've used Palmer Risers for a long time and I always set mine up like your first picture. But I also have been using Clicker bindings for just as long and they don't have a very large footprint. A binding with a larger base would require mounting them like the second picture. Notice also that you can extend the blue wings out from the silver disc to create a larger area for your binding if needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buell Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Notice also that you can extend the blue wings out from the silver disc to create a larger area for your binding if needed. The ones I had, the wings hooked under the center disk and you did not have the option to move them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 It's the Burtons that extend. Palmers do not. The little damping pads would end up cut by the lip of the centreplate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slopetool Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 I use them on my freeride boards. Angle them the same with our binding angles. As in picture 2. They raise up my bindings and give me that much more carving leverage. I've been happy with them for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heroshmero Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 It's the Burtons that extend. Palmers do not. The little damping pads would end up cut by the lip of the centreplate... The center plate rides on the damping pads. That's exactly the point. They don't get cut up. The wings are meant to extend to support the base of the binding if needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Hello Is it possible to use Burton Elevators with alpine bindings (such as F2 Race Titanium or soter ones like F2 Carve RS)? I only used them with softboots ... Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 Hi BlueB! Very interesting! How long do you us this set up? Could you please explain what you put between the Elevator and the snowboard ? Is it homemade plastic dampening plate? I guess one ca use the Elevator without these plastic plates? Do you also confirm that the Elevator are strong enough to resist to hardboot and alpine binding pressure? Thank you Silver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 Thin Ikea cutting board. It adds a bit of damping and prevents the rubbing of the top sheet. Go for the trimmed version (red). When left long (grey) it collects snow under. I had 2 days riding like that on Kessler 185, 1 day on Kesller BX 168, 1 day on F2 ElDiablo 165. So far, holding fine. It survived one really bad landing with big Kessler... No guarantees, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Posted December 10, 2010 Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 Hi BlueB! Do you still use your elevator plates with hard bindings? Any issue since last season? Thank you Silver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 This season I used them for 2 half days on Kessler 168 BXn. No issues so far. Big Kessler 185 I rode with my home made plate, so no use for Burton there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 Thanks BlueB! So no risk of breakage due to hard bindings? Any other experience to share? Silver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 Snowboarding is an inherently dangerous and risky sport. Anything you do is at your own risk. I broke few bindings in the past, big metal board yesterday, dealmed some skis way back and pulled the bindings right out of some other skis... I'm not pissed off about it, at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kieran Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 i use burton riser places on a pleasingly stiff k2 eldo, in softboots. given the flex i feel from them, i'm pretty certain i wouldn't use them with plate bindings. i'm a big lad though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian M Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 I'm interested in a pair of the Palmer flex risers for my teaching (soft boot) board, but was unable to find them in stock anywhere in North America. Has anyone seen these in stock somewhere? Ideally though, I'd like some of the Bomber SBS's with 1.5 degree cant disks. I wonder how long until Fin has time to create those.... *hint hint* Cheers, Ian M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 BlueB What is the Ikea dampening plate made of, plastic ? Is it really working and strong enough? Silver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 UHMDPE. Not "strong" at all. It's just there to dampen a bit and to protect the top sheet of the board. It is NOT the load spreading device. Down side is that it wants to creep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 What thickness for the plates? Do you pût longer screws? Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 Do you mean thickness of the Ikea pad? About 2mm... I don't quite remember what I did, but I think that I just used the Burton screws supplied with the riser. If the top sheet of your board is quite thick, you might want to use slightly longer screws. It should be pretty easy to judge for yourself... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mxjas38 Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 I'm interested in a pair of the Palmer flex risers for my teaching (soft boot) board, but was unable to find them in stock anywhere in North America. Has anyone seen these in stock somewhere?Ideally though, I'd like some of the Bomber SBS's with 1.5 degree cant disks. I wonder how long until Fin has time to create those.... *hint hint* Cheers, Ian M I just bought a pair of these last night to try on my wifes board, if she does not like them I could sell them to you for what I paid plus shipping. I paid $4.99 for each side. They do also have the clear hard plastic ones if you are interested. Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian M Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 I just bought a pair of these last night to try on my wifes board, if she does not like them I could sell them to you for what I paid plus shipping.I paid $4.99 for each side. They do also have the clear hard plastic ones if you are interested. Thank you Jason, that's very generous. Where did you buy them from at such a great price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mxjas38 Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 Thank you Jason, that's very generous. Where did you buy them from at such a great price? Clearance rack at our local sporting goods store. (Shenk and Tittle) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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