dave29 Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Has anyone had a chance to ride any of these? They look great, good specs and informative manufacturing video. Thanks for any feedback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronG Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 I believe Snowman has put some time in on Donek's latest metal offerings. Do a search using his name Here ya go: http://www.bomberonline.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=25868 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 .... but has to be done this season..... But the one ordered is a mixture of GS and FC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.E Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 Whats the mix? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 Excellent all day, super versital, do it all ride. I rode the 14-20 scr and 14-24m scr boards and probably more prefer the larger sidecut deck. The 14-20 was by no means short on versitality the the larger scr just gives you more options of turn size and here in Colorado we have top to bottom parking lot wide cruisers that allow for extreme changes in turn shape and size that additional radi availability is very welcome. Super fun to cruise on and can turn tighter than you legs will allow. Quiver killer, yes! 1 board that can serve may functions! Think Snow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 Whats the mix? GS outline, Metal FC construction and some further details. Just wait, I don't have it yet. I am in no hurry at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Buggs Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 Hey Sno, Im gonna be riding in Vail Monday- Wednesday any chance of me seeing one of these bad boys for a test drive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 Come to the Basin Monday. Small group of us meeting up and the snow is always the best at the Basin. Its tuned, waxed and ready to go! Send me your phone number. And as soon as I find the phone that I lost in the woods while burning slash I will give you a call. Hope I didnt cook it in a slash fire! Think Snow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Buggs Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Im staying In Vail village with NO car. My cell is 413-531-9734 if you find your way over there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fastskiguy Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 Excellent all day, super versital, do it all ride. I rode the 14-20 scr and 14-24m scr boards and probably more prefer the larger sidecut deck. Now....24m scr....that sounds freaking huge. What is up with that? Does it turn? Does it have a rocker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colintkemp Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 Snowman, How do you compare Sean's new FCs to earlier ones? I love my glass 185 FC (18.5 cm waist; 12.5 SCR). What can I espect from a 20 cm waist FC? Would you recommend the new FC for folks who like narrow (e.g., 18 cm) boards? Thank you, Colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave29 Posted December 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 Great question Colin. I am used to my glass 18.5cm waist also. I take it everywhere, it's durable and snappy. But, I am dying to try a metal 20cm waist and the new Donek Metal FC looks sweeeeet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Keep in mind that the new and old tech are bacisally two different machines that achieve the same result differently. Old stiff boards do it through power, mass and stiffness, new boards achieve it through dmapening, multiple radi sidecuts and decambering. The new shapes are soo much more versitale, they can do alot of different turn size/shapes. This versatility is not available on old boards primarily due to the single radi side cut. Don't get me wrong, you can still mix it up on old boards but the range is limited on what they can do. As for the 20cm waiste, it seems to be the norm and isn't going away any time soon soo it might be best to embrace it an make the adjustment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave29 Posted December 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Mark great explanation. I haven't heard it put that way. Thanks for the input it really helped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colintkemp Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Mark great explanation. I haven't heard it put that way. Thanks for the input it really helped. Ditto. Thanks Mark. Dave, it looks like you and I might be calling Sean sometime soon. First, however, I need to spend some time on the 180 Kessler I just got in exchange for my 185 Kessler... I'll be doing that Saturday, but I know I will also bring my FC with me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Fatski-don't let the large tail radi spook you. I know the way you ski and assume the your snowboarding is on the same level and I am confident that you would love it. Just imagine the range available with a 10m difference tip to tail. I hope the these larger sidecuts become more prevalant as for now I think Donek is pushing the envelope farther than the others. It just makes your available bag of trick larger. It is a very comfortable ride. If you get out here this winter I will get you on one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fastskiguy Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Fatski-don't let the large tail radi spook you. I know the way you ski and assume the your snowboarding is on the same level and I am confident that you would love it. Just imagine the range available with a 10m difference tip to tail. I hope the these larger sidecuts become more prevalant as for now I think Donek is pusing the envelope farther than the others. It just makes your available bag of trick larger. It is a very comfortable ride. If you get out here this winter I will get you on one. Might have to be next year the way things are looking....but I'll have more money next year too so it might be better that way. Part of the way something turns is the flex too so even though it's a straighter sidecut in the tail, maybe it bends nicely and that's how they get that versatile ride. Only a couple of ski racers use progressive sidecut skis...and nobody is using a rockered ski. Yet anyway. Makes me think...progressive sidecut race ski with a little tip and tail rocker....might be the next big thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 The flex of these new boards is hard for someone like me who prefers stiff boards to get use to. Its a whole new animal and there in is a big part of how these new boards work. They do what I call flubber. Watch a rider hammering down the run and observe the non engaged side of the board. They bend, twist, warp, flop what ever you might call it but this is how they can dissapate all of the chop, ice and other variations that you run over and smooth it all out. Its very stange to watch a board bending this way but it works very very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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