Kex Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 So UPS just dropped off my first pair of hardboots today(yay!) that I bought used here on BOL. They are DEELUXE Indys and are in great condition, but after trying them on and snapping them into my bindings, I noticed something that concerns me. The concern I have is regarding the connection between the deeluxe boots and my f2 bail bindings. It seems like the bails are too wide for both the front and back of the boots. I'm concerned that the inexact fit could, in a worst case scenario, cause the boot to pop out of the binding while riding. Both the front and back bails seem to be too wide for the boot, and their is a few millimeters of space between the bail and the boot(about a centimeter in the back). Is this just the way bail bindings are supposed to fit? I don't have enough experience hardbooting to know this, but when I've rented gear before, I dont remember seeing gaps like that. My main concern is in a situation where the boot torques or there is a lateral force on the boot that could cause it to pivot. I can tighted the bindings of course, but this does not help close the gaps at all. I have read this: http://www.alpinecarving.com/weld/ Which, if it would be a problem, is a possible solution, however I don't want to have to do something like this if its possible to avoid. Any input would be welcome. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 it's fine maybe tighten them if loose. DON"T WELD THE BAILS could actually weaken them so they'd be more likely to break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxguitarist Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Yeah, nothing to worry about. Make sure they snap down snugly, that's all. My fit is the same on snowpro race bindings and deeluxe 325T boots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingCrimson Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 I think the width of the bails actually makes clipping in easier. It's a gross alignment in the bails, and the contour of the toe clip centers you in the binding when you snap it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike T Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 IMHO F2 bails fit the AF shell (including Indy, Suzuka, Track700) better than any other bail out there... including TD2 and TD3. You should see the old Catek WC with Raichle/ Deeluxe boots.. that was a nightmare... my binding angles were always +- 5 degrees even with them cranked so tight they were making the bottom of the boot arc! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kex Posted January 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 ok guys, thanks for putting my fears to rest. I was afraid I wasnt going to get a chance to try my new gear out before our amazing drop thats close to 4 inches melts! Guess I was just being paranoid about the fit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingCrimson Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 cranked so tight they were making the bottom of the boot arc! I guess you have to be careful with metal toeclips! I hear bad noises from my Burtons, with not even close to enough tension to flex the boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike T Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 I guess you have to be careful with metal toeclips! I hear bad noises from my Burtons, with not even close to enough tension to flex the boot. Those old Catek WCs were burly... very burly. My shins are rattling and aching just thinking about riding with them on bumpy hardpack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingCrimson Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 My too stiff (and too much fun) Coiler, race ski boots, and those Cateks. How about that for a setup. Are the newer Cateks that much different? They seem to be the same fundamental design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike T Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 My too stiff (and too much fun) Coiler, race ski boots, and those Cateks. How about that for a setup.Are the newer Cateks that much different? They seem to be the same fundamental design. I dunno how they compare feel wise, I haven't ridden the OS2. I rode the OS1 step-ins which obviously didn't have bail issues, but in other ways were just as burly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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