No.2 Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 Can any one help me optimize my stance. Specs are 20.5" 61F 57R Heeps of toe and heal lift and cant, Catek OS2s, boots slightly back from centered over binding, 26 UPZ RTRs with thermos, well down sized and blown out all over the place quite straight on the front boot with more forward lean on the back boot. Hips seem to be further towards the front than the bindings... Bigest Q is should I cant my boots. Standing up they feel fine but with the stiff Grey Asym tongues in my shin gets pushed out when I flex in to the cuffs. This may be a result of blowing out the toe box so much... (where the tongue attaches) not sure. I'm running a lot of cant on the bindings to make it comfortable on the hill. Any thoughts would be great. There's no one over here in NZ (North Island at least) that can help me with this. Now no laughing at the tights and stockings. I wasn't even going to wear shorts but then I remembered 'this is the internet' :o J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NateW Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 Can you explain what "my shin gets pushed out" means? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No.2 Posted October 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 More On Board shots. Note the outward cant from the front when I flex in to the boots. Also What do you think of the over hang on my rear boot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cail Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 i don't think the overhang should be a problem unless you are riding the board completely perpendicular to the slope. as for stance... have you tried riding flat? no cant/lift. i started riding like this last season and it has worked wonders. i feel more comfortable on the board now. it took a little getting used to but once you do... wow. my 2cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 nothing on boot cuff adjustments, but here is some info on binding canting/lifting: http://www.bomberonline.com//articles/canting.cfm Also how tall are you and what is your inseam? With a size 26 boot, I'm thinking you probably can't dunk. In which case, a 20.5" stance might be a bit wide for you. You might try bringing it in to 19.5". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadBrad Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 With a narrower stance you may need less canting. I ran pretty much flat for years, but had narrow stances (16-17"). I have recently been widening my stance per the current trend, but find that I need some canting now to be comfortable and to avoid wavy heelside carves. I have a 32" inseam and I'm currently around a 19 to 19.5" stance. For boot canting, what some do is dangle a plumb bob from your kneecap as you bend your legs and see what angle develops between the plumb bob and the lower foot. Then adjust your boot cant to that amount. If you like to tuck your rear knee behind your front, then some rear boot cant might help you do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 Same here, 32" inseam, 18.75" to 19.5" stances. Only toe/heel lift, no cant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 Bout 32" here too, stance 55cm, full flat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No.2 Posted October 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 Thanks guys. Regarding cant I didn't run cant on my old 325 Raichles with the center tongue. But with my UPZ with the Asym tongue as I flex into the boots they fire my knees outwards especially with the stiff grey tongues in. Which is kind of nice toe side as you mention in that great cant article Jack. How ever with the UPZs it was way too uncomfortable with that stance width/angles. Even with all the cant I'm running I'm still knees apart even when I'm draging my rear knee in the snow toe side (ie too much in the back seat :) My inseam is 38" Thanks heeps for you thoughts I'll try a narrower stance, more forward angles, less toe and heal lift today. Q for the guys riding flat. What do you do with your boots forward lean adjustments? :) J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadBrad Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 When riding flat, I had a little bit of forward lean in the front boot and quite a bit of forward lean in the rear boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 With 38" inseam you might need that wide stance! For me, when my boot cuffs are not adjusted at the same lean, is an indicator that I don't have right toe/heel lift on the bindings. Rear boot at greater angle then fwd means more toe/heel lift is needed. Fwd boot cuff at greater angle means too much toe/heel lift... Also, with straighter cufs, I need more heel then toe lift. With more angled boots, I need lesser heel lift and more toe lift, to keep the CG centered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 No lean, i'm with BTS and setup is as straight up as one get out of them, i even changed shorter lower spring to get them more straihgt up. In reality one can not get boot more staright up without some material out of boot :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadBrad Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 Hmmm, I may have to try less forward lean. I read that forward lean in the boots can cause muscle fatigue. I figured I was just out of shape, but perhaps the boot lean contributes to the thigh burn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cail Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 When riding flat, I had a little bit of forward lean in the front boot and quite a bit of forward lean in the rear boot. i'm similar. i try to ride front boot as straight as possible, and more forward lean in the rear (otherwise my shin starts to kill). i put in the softer tongues for this upcoming season..and i still have to install the BTS and do some cutting in my Stratos. nice risers btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No.2 Posted October 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 I've definatly found more forward lean esp on the front boot = more thigh burn. esp when traversing. Sorry to do every thing backwards here but today was such a good day that the only stance I played around with was MORE CANT and more forward angles. I certainly noticed that my heal side initiations were easier. All this cant just seems to be necessary with these asym tongue UPZs. I'm beginning to think that may be it's just what your used to and stance maybe doesn't matter that much. I've tried all sorts flat, heeps of heal lift, 70s 45s even duck on my BX board and every thing seems do able. I guess I just need to build up enough body awareness to notice when I'm fighting the stance and when I can just relax into it with and still keep clean. The only stance that I have really found hard was 57F 54R. I really didn't know what to do with that... Might be telling I'm not sure. Thanks again for all your input guys. If any one has got any gems then I'm still very interested. Jas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No.2 Posted October 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Just plastic welded my cant holes up on my UPZs and re drilled. It seems that the stiff tongues, thermos and blown out toe boxs put my cant WAY out when I flex. It's not perfect but my stance is much less of a fight now. :) Jas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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