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hey Bryan. I have traded up a bit. Still Burton though. Planning on being at the SES this year, maybe I can win some new gear. Anyways, hope to see you in February. I've been checking out your vids at the finelineclub site. Great stuff.

there is some incredible footage of this same "technique" in the new Warren Miller movie "Playground", except this time around they are flying down peaks with chutes touching down on select spots, then launching off of cliffs. Incredible stuff.

Thats it. I just wanted to let you know.

I booked four nights at the St. Moritz tonight... Tuesday- Saturday. I've been trying to get back since 2005, looks like this is the year.

I've spent a couple of New Year's in Summit County over the New Years and have always had good luck with snow. I have noticed this year has started out very slow but things can change in a hurry. Make sure to watch weather updates at this link. http://www.snowforecast.com/coloradofcst/breckenridge.html

I thought the horse was dead to Jack, I wasn't trying to revive it. But I must say I feel good about the fact that the original post got around 6800 views and 165 replies. From what I could find, one of the most ever on the site. The dead horse animation was great. <a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f400/jonjansen15/SoftCarve1bw.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket"></a>

Im drinking one right now in fact, a ice cold bottle of miller lite. Soon to be miller/coors light. What a perfect merger. Milwaukee, and the rocky mountains. Kind of like when I'm ripping up the rockies I guess.

<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f400/jonjansen15/JonsHeelside.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket"></a> <a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f400/jonjansen15/Me1.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket"></a> I love riding with my knees together! It's so fun!!!!!!!! Everybody should do it! Look at that old board, I must be craaaazy!!!!! Just kidding, I love snowboarding. I can't wait for it to snow. I've been walking around the house all week with my knees touching each other to get ready for the season.

Hey Bordy, can I have your autograph? :)

Fear of a Flat Planet, classic.

If only I was there, in the middle, to help ensure that freeriders around the world didn't take the wrong road to contorted body positioning, bad habits, and restrictive freeriding techniques.

Im going to have to dissagree with you on that one.

Carving can be done on anyboard actually. Some boards are just more suitable than others. Yours, when ridden correctly, can carve it up. Give'r hell.

Let it snow. Weather in Wisconsin is crap as well. I would be really upset, but, my wife and I are headed out to Beaver Creek on Christmas night. Staying through the New Year. Hopefully by the time we get back the rain outside will have turned to snow.

I have thirteen more days until my wife and I arrive in God's country, Colorado. Just to give a heads up. We will be staying in Beaver Creek and plan to ride Vail, Copper, BC, and maybe Keystone and or Breck. It would be great to get together and ride with anyone who will be out and about that week. Let us know. Jon

I definately plan on getting on a pair of skis this year. I skied for two years before I started snowboarding. Now that they went parabolic, it should be fun to see how the hardboot thing will transfer over into carving on a pair of skiis.

Yes, standing in the living room they do come together naturally, I'm not holding them together. The stance is knees together, flexing naturally, my whole body compresses, decompresses directly up and down, slight bending at the waist forward, towards the nose. When riding, compressing into the turn, I rotate my upper body slighty and smoothly into the dirction of the turn being made. I meant, I am not trying to hold my knees together, they end up that way do to the way I am riding.

Knees locked? I don't. just come together due to body postion. The board that I am riding on in the pics I posted originally is actually an old board of Lowell's. I bought it on ebay. Crazy. Guess what, the board I am currently riding, was bought on ebay as well, from the one and only Lowell Hart as well. At least I know they were taken care of. Plus, the board I am riding works fine. It's plenty stiff, narrow waist, which I like, and a sidecut that gives me freedom to make any turn needed. Both here in Wisconsin, and out west as well. This year I need to demo some longer stuff, to feel that difference. Plus, like I said earlier. I really don't think more recent gear will change my riding, at least as far as the board is concerned. Now, of course, different lengths, width, and stiffness changes things. I will be the first to admit that td2's are stronger and more ridged than the burton race plates, (that I just bought of of ebay), but they work great because I am so use to the extra play. At the SES I rode the td2s for a few runs. Its not easy to go from variplates to td2's. But after two runs, the adjustment was made, and I think in time my riding would be identical to how it was on the variplates/3Ds.

Yeah, I know ken, I worded that post horribly. Good technique is used for both. I have a point, but at this point, oh well, I'm just going to let it go.

I guess what it all boils down to for me is that the angulated style that everyone rides appears to look so uncomfortable and contorted to me. I will definately be working on it this upcoming week to feel the difference. Years ago I would be riding out west and notice that everyone else rode "hunched over." At the time I didn't know all of the techy terms like angulating and what not. I'm not sold right now on the style. But like I said, I can't wait to give a go. Maybe I should have named the thread differently as well. Knees together is kind of misleading into thinking that I'm holding my knees together. When actually they come together both heelside and toeside because of the weight that is being transferred to the front of the turn. When riding I focus on the edge pretty much from the front foot forward. I think one reason why riding this way is so successful for myself is that alot of force is directed forward taking unneeded forces off of the board. This way less of a load is needed on the edge to hold the turn. It makes for a very effortless looking ride as well. Rarely do I ever feel chatter. Even when loosing an edge, my body is in possition to recover very quickly I even think it has a lot to do with the fact that I was able to use a pair of Burton 3ds for over ten years without anythng snapping. Eficient transfer of force from body to board. But at this point, I've kind of started to beat the dead horse. I'll ride the way I want to and all who read these posts will ride the way they want to. I was just trying to figure out what the scoop was with the angulated crowd. Hopefully I can think of another hair raising thread to top this one.

Hey Bordy, I saw on one post that you do accept a T6 as a good board. I thought you would like to know that although I totally rip a fp. My freeride board is no other than a T6. It snaps like no other freeride board I've ridden. But the FP rips too, believe it or not. note: knees together, body moving in direction of turn, little angulation, and some inclination.

Classic. that is some funny stuff man.

When on the timeline was the standard set as far as correct body postioning. Am I right to believe that the driving force behind it was creating speed and stability in the race course? I can see how knees apart, and keeping the COG close to the board in course is important due to slick icy grooves, as well as manuevering around the flags on a pgs course. At that point did it just moved into freeriding? Skiiers make a distinction between the two.- Freeriding, and racing. A ski racer on course skis differently than when riding the mountain. Why is it necesary to do so in snowboarding. Jack, you said that I ride with a smooth style, but anybody could, including your Grandma on those hero conditions. I live in Milwaukee, WI. I ride on a 200 verticle-man made snow hill. We are lucky to ever see conditions like I see every year when I go out west. So I guess I got to the point I am at now riding on very less than hero snow, right?

Bordy, I'm not trying to attack you personally. That was the first post I left with any negative vibe. I 'm sure you are aware of the way you come off as when you are posting. I'm sure your a great guy, and fun to ride with. It's easier to argue about topics face to face, that way everything isn't blown out of porportion. I was smiling to myself while writing that post. You always come back so strong, telling everybody how wrong they are, in one way or the other. If we read between the lines of your posts, it seems very much like personal attacks as well. Of course I can't speak for anyone other than myself. I guess I was misinterpreting you as well. But many do, if you have noticed. I, like you, take a lot of pride in my riding as well as the sport that I think about year round. I apologize for the "making up for something" comment. I certainly do not try to steer the sport in the wrong direction. I try to be a good ambassador to the sport, out here in Wisconsin. You come off so strong sometimes, you sound like an a-hole. But admit it, you try to get a rise out of people. I guess I am just too sensitive.

the fact is bordy, I have ridden some of the gear you speak of. And it works well too. But It doesn't effect how well I ride. You haven't seen me ride, so you can't see how effective riding a board with proper weighting and unweighting can effect the ride. You seem to be so hung up on yourself, it is skewing your views towards anyone else. You seem to be making up for something. Like when a guy buys a fancy sportscar. Unfortunately, if you don't know how to drive, it doesn't matter how great your ride supposely is. So I guess keep buying all that great gear of yours to help your riding. Then, try to strong arm everybody who has a disagreement, or difference in opinion and try to force it down there throats by typing strong worded responses on the internet. Everybody can learn from different experiences, even if they aren't the ones you dream up. I wouldn't ask these types of questions if it wasn't out of curiousity, and to try to understand more about the sport. It's that open mindedness in life that helps you gain the most knowledge. I have ridden using every technique out there. I even went to your website to watch how "good riders snowboard". And I think even the mighty poster Bordy, has some things to work on and be open minded about. I'm sure growing up in the sport out here in the midwest has a lot to do with the styles and techniques I have picked up. I have been riding hardboots for thirteen years. I certainly don't ride the same now as I did ten years ago. Could it be possible that there is more than one way, or that maybe, just maybe, something has been missed along the way.