I really do not wish to argue the point any further...
I did not say they were the start but only that you could Carve with them...
Continuous Track on Groom to me is Carving...Carving is Alpine style, in fact I would say that I carved or was riding Alpine style on my
elite 150 after I added booster straps (the 3rd Strap) for frontside turns as the elite had a built in highback for backside .
There were many back then doing Alpine in Hard and Soft, experimentation was OK, there was no do it this way...
Your definition is different than mine and for this HB forum yours should probably be used...
The "Model A" was a Car, Formula 1 racing is a car and I thought King Crimson was seeking the origins of Alpine not just
HB Alpine as it is Now...as you suggest.
So Long...have a great summer :)