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yep. already had that come to mind. have a plan laid out for now, and any expenses other than BTS are either extremely cheap or can be transferred to other boots. thanks.

might help to keep an eye on this recently created thread as well as whatever advice you get here if you haven't seen it already. i hope that whatever pow experiences you get for the week are good ones

thank you guys very much for your time. the responses were helpful, and some parts of them touched up really well where i most felt unsure.

if nothing else, someone could at least answer the questions on relative stiffness and static lean before i give this whole thing a rest, right?

thanks for the lead. will keep that option in mind.

feel free to point me to any threads or pages that directly answer my questions. i hadn't been able to find any before writing my thread. after some additional digging, only thing i have an answer for is ONE person saying to get four long pins for the install with no direct response to that comment. can anyone confirm that? any chance of having to go short with small (24m) feet? anyway, back to more digging edit: please allow me to elaborate further. meant no disrespect. i just hope you can imagine how much forum-digging and how long it would take to hope to find some of the answers i'm looking for. i'm asking these questions because they're not directly answered in most of the threads that come up from search and think that many of them can be answered by others with the experience, not to mention in much far less time than it would take me to look up a fraction of the answers. i've already spent $460+$40(used intec)+$30(eliminators to aid a shinbang problem that still isn't even completely fixed) for these boots and am still yet to possibly spend $25(boosters) + >=$30(superfeet) + ~$10(anklewraps & other fit fixes) + ~$75(used BTS if i can find any and other parts and tools needed to install). i am just a college student with a part-time job, and the expenses so far have already been a huge blow; i'm trying to get a good grasp on what i'm getting myself into before i drop another bucket of money. anyway, i will be going out boozing now and will continue my digging later. cheers

don't have one :'( gotta find neoprene elsewhere

have asked some questions about this a couple times in my shin bang thread but they seem to not be getting caught by the eyes of readers who would know the answers, so i'm just creating a new, properly labeled thread with some re-thought and rephrased, some same, questions after having done a bit of forum digging. i've been highly urged to pick up some BTS for my boots. i think i'm gonna have a couple more sessions with my stock boots (mainly to once again try the max lift on rear and min lift on front and see what i can achieve in terms of a crouched, neutral stance) before i make the decision to pick 'em up. even after reading its page in the BOL store, i'm left wondering many things and overall feel like i don't know a thing about the BTS. * will probably end up trying to go to 6-6 disks on my TD2 SIs in that meantime; sound like an OK temporary fix? thoughts? i'm currently using 3-6 disks and get quad burn just standing up on carpet with anything 3-3 or less. * my wings, as far as i recall, don't even get close to touching each other when flexing forward like others do. i'll have to double-check that when i go back to tahoe where my boots are stored. is there still enough friction to warrant cutting them out when installing BTS? this question not so important; i presume that the answer to this question is yes.. maybe i'm just trying to get an idea of how much the wings' rubbing makes an impact. from here speaking of stock boots: * what does that mean? * since the BTS allows rearward flex toward the heelside, does that necessarily mean the red springs for the rearward are softer than stock rearward flex? because of the whole not being able to stand on carpet with anything less than 3-6, it sounds like i'm SIMPLY just putting some slop into the boots and "downgrading" the boots to those more like a softer pair so i can get into the neutral stance more easily. is this a distorted perception? * what is the range of adjustable static lean enveloped by the BTS system relative to the range in the stock HSPs? * what is the range of adjustable stiffness enveloped by all color combinations of BTS springs relative to the range in the stock HSPs? * how stiff are these boots stock compared to WCRers' boot setups after mods and all, anyway? (out of curiousity) * 'cause, let's say hypothetically i get crazy good and crazy aggressive (though i'm only 120 lb, and this upcoming question kind of ties back to the other one asking about the range of stiffness accomodated by all BTS spring colors; don't know how max stock and max red spring stiffness compare). will i outprogress BTS with red springs and have to buy some stock boots in the future? i'm kind of turned off of the idea of having to use more newbie-friendly gear and having to upgrade down the road. if the only problem is just the fact that it's a matter of time before i overwhelm the boots and have to go back to stock, i'd rather just leave it as i would use it were i an exxxxpurrrt carver * how am i supposed to deal with deciding the colors? rather than stopping at suggesting a colorset (i assume everyone will just say go all yellow for 120 lbs, and i won't argue against that), can someone also add a guideline in words of which to use sort of like how booster strap does in graph form? (something not so abstract like the BTS page in the BOL store) everyone's going to suggest yellow all-around for me, right? * will my bootfitter (that i bought these boots from NEW) do these mods for me if i roll in with the boots, BTS, pins, and drillbits? are they likely to already have the drill and drillbits? am i supposed to pick up the long or short pins from the BOL store? i only need two, right? i figure that things like having to go back to stock are unrealistic and not gonna happen, but i'm trying to get actual explanations and hoping to not just be shot down with "you don't need to even think about that" (that is, if the issues touched on by the questions are in reality addressed by some riders. if not, feel free to give me this answer!) and questions being left unanswered. i feel like i know absolutely nothing about the BTS despite reading a lot about it and am just trying to feel like i have more than just a gist on their overall function so that i can make the modifications without taking the plunge simply because everyone's telling me to. i won't deny that everyone else that has done these mods should know better than i what needs to be done for my setup, but i'm starting to get all control-freaky in presence of the possibility of needing to perform some crazyass surgeries on my boots. though they may be a tad too big, i'm quite attached to these boots, and don't really want to deal with the hassle of juggling around money/expensive boots to exchange for one that's my size. part of it also has to do with the fact that i bought them new, and don't want to trade for one that has already seen moderate or more use. i've already been suggested in my shin bang thread to upgrade the liners, downsize the boots, etc. please take any further talks about that back to the shin bang thread, and understand that i have heard them and am NOT dismissing them but am deciding to stick it out for now and put that stuff off 'til later. i appreciate that input already given so much from everybody here! however, for now i will resort to ankle wraps and thick superfeets, because i still need to buy footbeds, and the rest of the too-big-boot fixes i'm after are quite cheap and i want to see how they turn out.

thanks for sharing footage, ace. i especially appreciate that you leave the original soundtracks intact. keeps me in one piece until i can go back to the mountains and ride some more.

gonna have another session or two before finally deciding to actually throw down for BTS. in the mean time, i still have some questions. what's that mean? since the BTS allows rearward flex toward the heelside, does that necessarily mean the red springs are softer than no BTS in terms of flex in that direction? which color springs have the most similar flex range to the stock? i realize this may be very subjective, but which colors should a 120lb rider with 10+ years of snowboarding under his belt and aspiring to progress quickly in alpine boarding use with minimal spring switching in time? let's say that said 120lb rider is already decently aggressive. i'm sure i have more questions. i'll ask away later as they come back to me. edit: oh yeah, and if there's anything that can be explained as to the function of the BTS that isn't explained on its page in the store, please share!

one thing. if you like taking public transportation and avoiding driving, this page and the map and schedule PDFs may be VERY useful to you; after all, you're staying there for like a week. buses are free during the ski season, from what i've been told by a driver.. i've used them several times this season and haven't been charged yet. also, signs on the bus say that stops are only made at the designated bus stops, but i've been told by the same driver that one can get off anytime during ski season. however, i'm most of the time just going between boulder or stagecoach lodge to a condo less than a mile away, and so i don't get taken anywhere near the city. i don't know if they're as lenient on their policies when driving through the city. YMMV. sorry if anything's not completely accurate. no responsibility taken for any problems! thank you! another thing. at my condo, we have an association channel on our cable tv that tells us in which areas of our parking lot that we may not park in at whatever times (i can only imagine that this gets updated VERY often when it's storming big time like it will be while you're up there) so that people can plow snow out of the parking lots. your car gets towed if it's in the wrong spot at the wrong time. it may be like this where you're staying as well, so watch your back!

don't matter, it's MLK weekend and there will be hordes of vacationers riding in the middle of a dump anyway.

i happened to be looking here the other day and even mentioned it in the thread right next to yours :p scroll down a little bit in that first link for a picture of the ankle wrap that comes with burton boots or one of several that you can buy off tognar. or, a good amount of people like to make their own stuff.

oof, just realized that your vacation starts smackdab at the beginning of a system. figure you should bring a pow-capable board with whatever else you're bringin'. if you're going to heavenly, i hear that the canyons (double blacks) are ecstasy after pow dumps; never been there myself. i would imagine that the milky way bowl would be great too; never been there either.

not that i've seen. give me a location and i'd investigate.

people that don't like to make their own stuff can find ankle pads that come with burton boots or the ones sold at tognar. this page has a picture of them; if i understand correctly, they go outside the liner, inside the shell.

you mentioned before that you were staying at southshore 16th-22nd and sort of implied planning to ride heavenly while you were up there. have you picked your resorts and dates yet? anyway, i just started a new job yesterday that works me most weekdays in the hometown, so unfortunately i've sort of become a weekend warrior. luckily, i actually have tuesdays off, so i still get one weekday. woo~ but yeah, this upcoming weekend is a bit iffy for me, and chances of riding tuesday, the 19th is a maybe at best. in case you don't get to go with anyone to give you a tour if you end up riding heavenly, here's some o' the skinny that i know. prob'ly not absolute, and i particularly don't know terribly much about the california side. hope it doesn't overwhelm you too much; just tryin' to be useful on these forums once in a while since i'm still a hardboot n00b. *groom, groom!* RED - Lifts BLUE - Slopes/Runs Nevada side: Stagecoach, Olympic: Olympic Downhill (Groom all the way down to base of Stagecoach lift) Stagecoach (upper half icy) Boulder (non-express), North Bowl (non-express): Boulder Chute, Boulder Bowl Dipper, Comet: Orion, Big Dipper, Comet Galaxy (non-express): Galaxy (bit icy, could use more snow), Perimeter (bit icy and has a lot of woodchips, could use more snow) California side: Sky, Canyon: Ridge Run High Roller (has good and bad days) Notes: -When everything has coverage and snow is good, my single most favorite run is Stagecoach. (It's not perfect yet as of this posting.) It's a gem because no one ever turns left off the top of the Stagecoach lift, so no one ever goes there. The bottom half is always great because trails merge down there. -Olympic Downhill all the way to the bottom of Stagecoach is one of the longer runs that you can one-shot without any flats. Only riding the upper half (stopping at base of Olympic lift) is a popular course of action since the groom's pretty good there and it don' crowd up like Orion and Dipper; bottom half gets chopped up quicker (in a bad way) than the upper due to several trail merges in the area. -Orion and Big Dipper are superb at time of first chair but they crowd very quickly. These runs are the most popular of the Nevada side, maybe even of the entire resort. Orion's arguably the best, crowding aside; always perfect snow in the morning and very wide. -Galaxy area is a gem when there's enough frickin' snow 'cause it's way the @#$& to the side but has no express lift, meaning no one ever goes there, so it's a tradeoff. If you go here, beware of branches sticking out. Not a HUGE problem on Galaxy run. Besides the double blacks, this is probably the most desolate (in a good way) place in all of Heavenly. -Ridge Run on California side is pretty great too but is also a contender for most popular run at Heavenly. If it feels like a California day, I move over to Canyon when Sky crowds up, as they have access to the same runs that I like to ride. -If you tire easily, it may be a bad idea to explore too much in one day. There are tons of riders on all areas of the spectrum in riding ability congesting the popular slopes and there are LOTS OF FLATS on the traversing runs that connect different sections of the resort! some links: * trail map * grooming map apparently updated daily, but groomed runs mostly stay the same every day

heheh. anyway, after riding four days in a row, it's quite apparent that shaving my legs won't do anything for my case. also, a day and a half after my last session, i'm almost already healed up, so i can afford to live with this shinbang for quite a while until i find out a fix. it's weird though, 'cause i get pretty nasty chafing.

add your board to the BENT or BROKEN archives; it needs some growth. badly. :)

|R |E |S |U |R |R |E |C |T |I |O |N because the forums are in season and everyone else is doin' it. i'm just tryna be cool. time for us new-schoolers to poll in. i hope we get some new votes and wonder if the results will skew further. not really expecting anything big, but a little bit of fun here for everyone. feed me. righthanded, goofy. skateboard regular though. pre-resurrection: R: 65 (57.52%) G: 48 (42.48%)

Yeah, it's kind of a disappointing thought when you've had the bootfitters hold your hand from the very start. Told the dude that from self-measuring, I was in the high 23s, and he told me not to worry about it. Everything else he said during the initial bootfitting process was spot-on, so I couldn't help but think he knew all when he said 24 was the right size for me. Now, I'm starting to fret :(

and my heels still lift despite using those. maybe i also need those ankle wraps

and that brings the count to 2 people now that didn't realize i'm already using those :p

will see if i can cook something up later. for now, me hungry. need food. edit: whoops. didn't catch the "in action" soooo.. you'll just have to wait until february to see me in action.

unfortunately, no. hopefully i can find somebody to lend me a pair for a day.