Gunnar

I guess width Is even more important for EC skiis then EC boards. 66-70mm waist must be much skinny! Boot-out, long before elbows meet the snow I guess.. Hendryx are around 100mm and up in waist width.

How to: http://www.hendryxskis.se/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Itemid=27 And suitable weapon's: http://www.hendryxskis.se/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=20&Itemid=34

Could it be so that the tighter sidecut in nose and tail, makes up for decreased edge pressure due to torsional flex?

Ouch! Old Technica's are known to fall apart. Was it the grey ones, or newer?

Still alive from DeeLux.. http://www.bomberonline.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=17380&highlight=freezone http://shop.alpinepunk.com/en/article/5/freezone_pro But the hinge-points seems waaay to high, compare to Flexons and Dalbellos.

..For Step-in Kit.

I got following TD2 parts: One 3* disc. 2 Retro-kits. (Step-in toe-blocks, and step-in heel receivers.)

How stiff boots did you try?

Well if your walking stance are close to, around 90-90 or less, it might work for you. I would tip over after a few meters. My mouth would froth, and I would probably pas out in a few seconds.. But I cant go closer then 20degrees between front and back binding angles.

My left knee was hurting before i saw this (from plowing to much behind a toboggan..) But the reminder this gave me, that I have sold all my Skwals, makes the pain disappear! :)

I see your point Coloradoking and bola. I should have mentioned that i consider the Kryptons only because they would let me swap between skis and board, when patrolling at work. I need new skiboots, and really like the flex in 3-piece shells. I'm on Scarpas XT's with stiff flexon-comp tongues now, when skiing. But I have softened up Stratos I can use for Free/EC when.... Im free. :) I imagine that my TD's with soft E-rings, and converted from the stiffer step-in to standard fasteners, could make up for some of the Kryptons lateral rigidity. I also ride with around 5-6 degrees front-toe, and back-heel lift. Besides patroling, I'm also working as fireman, so no:flamethroin this thread!!

I wish i had your feet! Im on 27-28, and alot of duck in my walking stance , and close to 45-0 on softboots. How high bindings do you ride on?

My thought was that the overall length and the sole length follow together.. But you nailed it below.. Could you change the thread title to: Should/could hard boots Overall shell length be even shorter? That exactly what was on my mind, when I came up with the question! I don't know why I didnt ask for that instead . I walk around in Keens and Crocks all the time. And all my shells ends up looking like them, after a few years of blocking. I think it would make a big difference on angles, because it would matter most on the rear boot, where the shells now have a lot of unused space on the outside of the toebox.

I think so because; shorter shell = lower binding angles = more freedom in the hips, and more pressure on the edges.

Sounds nice. A-tongues for GS ski racin, and C- (maybe only on the rear boot) for deeep EC, and cross-under pumping.

Ok. Is that the softer tongue that comes with the boots, or are they even softer tongues that can be ordered..? And thanx patmoore for the numbers. I think I'll need size 27, but have to try to be shure. So I'll have to wait until next winter. No boots in stock here in Norway..

Sweet patmoore! Do anyone know if it's possible to buy extra softer tongues for the Kryptons?

I think my hardboots with slanted heels and toes, are almost as bad as softies on really hard snow and ice. So I'm considering changing to Dalbello Kryptons next winter, to get better grip when kicking steps. I know that some race gates on them. But I'm used to softened up Stratos (By cutouts in the lowers, and softer and longer springs (-ACCS system) So Im afraide they wont have soft and long enough flex, for kneling down in bumps and betwene EC turns.. Do anyone have any opinion on Kryptons?

Do anyone know the length of size27 and 28 Krypton shell? /Gunnar

Many riders obviously like Flow! But I like to strap down super tight, so i need bindings that compress more over the heelgrip.. I hope I get to try out Chinc and Fastec before the snow melts, to see if they can do it.

My Flow's sucks, because they lack buckles and straps. ;)

And don't think heel and toe lift are only for hard-booters! I ride 43/3, (So I'm an natural duck) and have a Burton uni-cant set to about 4degrees heel-lift, and 3degrees canting. It makes the pressure on the highbacks, and boot tongues even. And lets the rear leg suck up bumps better, without getting fatigued. Take a look at all the directional soft-booters, rideing around with huge gaps between rear boot and highback on both toe and heel edge... If i did not have the uni-cant, I would be on a pair of Catek softies . And I will certanly get a pair anyway, if/when Caron manage to merge the Fastec mechanism into them!

I always use both AT and Snowboard boots in ski bindings. BUT only in bindings that have a loose plate under the toe that moves/slides out to the side with the boot when releasing!!! /Gunnar

For the last 6-7 years I have been trying to convince my boss a few times, that I could do my job 99,9% as efficient on my alpineboard as on my skis. Occasionally I take a few runs in the short disc lift above our mountain-watch base up on the hill. That makes me able to get back on my skis in a few seconds, when "the **** hits the fan". (My hardboots have the same size as my skiboots. Closeing the rear ski bindings manualy works just fine) Trough the years we have got complains that the skipatroll are not visible enough in the slopes. When I'm patrolling on my alpineboard I feel like every-singel-one is staring at me. Especially when i'm doing laydowns in the slope paralell to the disc lift above our mountain-base. I won't give up my struggle to get acknowledgement to patroll that area on my board. So any suggestion and support are welcome! /Gunnar

I to got a 188. I think the stance depends mostly on how much lift angles you use. I run 6degrees toelift in front, and have the front binding in the most forward position. I have the rear binding in the middle holes, and 3degrees heel lift. That puts my center of gravity close to the midle of the boards flex patern.