jhcolman Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Hi All: My son and I just came back from the World Cup Alpine PGS races at Whiteface. We noticed that some of the racers were riding what I would call riser plates. Essentially, strips of say 1 inch high metal, that raise the binding higher off the board, presumably proving more leverage to place the board on edge and more rigidily/less flex directly under the feet. The ski racing world calls these "riser plates". What are the pros and cons of these, for adult racers and also for teenage racers (14 years old, 5 foot 6, 125 lbs, an aggressive rider for his age)? What are the design alternatives and where can we procure them? My son currently rides a custom Coiler. Should be an interesting discussion, if you are interested. Best Julian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr D Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 the idea tickles my brain. the pics I saw looked like a total custom throw it together. I am playing with ideas on how to do it with some adjustability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcross.au Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 the bloke that won the PGS, had what looked like home made risers, there was a thread about it 2 weeks ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgforce Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Are you guys talking about the bindings that the Schoch brothers and Tyler Jewell are using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam B Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 I was one of the forerunners at the Lake Placid World Cup and was intrigued by the elaborate vibration dampening/riser plates as well. I saw twice as many boards with the binding system on them as I did last year at <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:place>Lake Placid</st1:place>. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p> I found it interesting that the only <st1:country-region><st1:place>US</st1:place></st1:country-region> rider to come close to a podium finish (Tyler Jewel) was riding the Kessler/binding system setup. <o:p></o:p> The system is basically designed for vibration dampening by using 1/2" medium durometer urethane bars with probably 6061 aluminum on top and risers for increased leverage on the board. They are made by Kessler and apparently will be available next fall. I was amazed to see how the Kesslers actually work on rutted conditions. They were as soft as noodles never leaving the snow and maintaining edge contact constantly. The mix of Titanal girders, torsional rigidity, binding packs set to the back, taper and soft tip to tail flex works incredibly for the current PGS courses!<o:p></o:p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgforce Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 the interesting thing is that the boards doesn't come with inserts anymore but according to Tyler you need to drill the board (like its done with skis) closer to the edge and then mount the base on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam B Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 From what I understand Kessler can make their boards with the Stainless Steel inserts on the rails! I would assume you can insert T-nuts on an existing board! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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