Mr.E Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 Just got my new 185 Undertaker Just wondering how you guys mount these up. The nose and camber are so far off from my other decks. Both insert packs are 5 long, the middle measuring about 21", pretty close to my stance width. Should I mount foward, with setback, right in the middle? I know its all personal, but who want to waste time on a powder day screwing with binding placement? Thanks guys, E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Dahl Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 My take on swallowtails has been centered on the insert pattern, but I too am curious as I'm about to mount up my 178 Nitro Pow. It may get the nod first thing in the morning, as I think it's pukin' big up in the hills! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nils Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 The undy is one of the best "industrial" board. As usual experiment with settings. Its not necessary to setback bindings on a swallowtail, unless its really deep pow, since ST from this generation are designed to be ridden "on the nose" rather than on the back leg. Bindings: try to avoid overhang for the occasionnal times when you will be carving on piste.. I'm often falling big times with my settings because the backside touches the boots and boom... Nils ps: take pics :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Dahl Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Just got back from riding my swallow for 5+ hours in waist deep snow. All I gotta say is now I know why people like 'em for those big steep pow fields I see pics of from europe. Ended up with my bindings set back quite a bit, front foot at the back of the last set w/binding set all the way back, and rear foot in the last set of inserts w/binding all the way forward. Found this way I could stand neutral on the board and trim it with pressure changes for and aft for speed control, and just a little roll for turns. It was way cool to drop into a steep and roll back on the board to trim a little speed, and hit the bottom of it and submarine the board and have it pop back up to the surface with good speed. And just way cool to float casually past everyone flailing and falling. Now, all I got to hope for is having a job tomorrow after playing hookie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galen Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Hey Jon, Did you go in Wa.? Crystal, Stevens..etc..? I'm going to Crystal tomorrow, and hoping for some deep to test ride the new 4807. :D They are saying another 4-6" overnight. How was it, where ever it was? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utahcarver Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Mr.E: I mounted my Rossi Undertaker 185 up tonight with TD2's (BIG storm tonight, I've already shoveled the driveway twice). My stance width is generally 19.0 inches (years ago I started at 17.5 inches) which gives me quite a bit of fore and aft control. I mounted the TD's more forward but without using the forward most set of inserts. The reason I do this is, at least here in the mountain west, it's very easy to trim out a swally and ride very fast instead of using a board as a powder brake. The Undertaker is untried so far because I've been riding my Tanker 200 and enjoying my front leg burning again. I suppose that the Dupraz board that Bola loves rides similar to a swallowtail or surf/snowboard. Funny, the Dupraz sure looks a lot like a Winterstick Roundtail of yore. Kudos to Serge Dupraz for keeping the dream alive. Let us know of your success with your 185 Mr.E. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.E Posted January 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Mounted an old pair of O2/Snowpro plates, just aft of center. Looking foward to surfing off of 9990 at the Canyons tomorrow. To bad Snowbird isn't free on a pow day :rolleyes: I'll have the screwdriver in the pocket and report back. Thanks for the help guys! Nils, I'll see if I can get any action shots tomorrow, otherwise it will be classic leaning aginst the wall shots :D Ahhhh...1'-3' predicted for tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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