hermes45 Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Hello, For carving and extrem carving,what do you think about this board ? Better than Swoard Dual ?With the Kessler Cross, hard boot or soft boot ? Thank´s for your answer :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermes45 Posted June 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 not answer... :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex1230 Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 I don't think many people here are familiar with this board. You may want to ask the guys at extremecarving.com ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermes45 Posted June 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 (edited) No, I have not ask extremecarving.com because it´s only oriented "Swoard"... For the Cross, on the web site Kessler, it say that this board is very good to carving and too with softboot !!! If the Dual is good for carving, I think that Kessler too ?? Edited June 2, 2013 by hermes45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 I think he ment to get the info on Dual from extremecarving.com and see if someone rode them both. It would be 2 very different animals, I guess... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermes45 Posted June 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 Very good answer....Thank´s to you tell me if you see my question in EC....;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegtal Posted June 4, 2013 Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 There's a guy on extremecarving.com who rode both brands but on the hardboot side (Kessler The Alpine / Swoard Extremecarver), you can try a search there. The Swoard team tested Kessler boards but didn't leave any comment about their riding experience on them. Don't forget Extremecarving.com isn't exactly a carving community but a Swoard dedicated community, it will help understanding some comments about other brands there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermes45 Posted June 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 I think that he ride only on a Kessler Alpine and not on a Cross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowmatic Posted June 4, 2013 Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 (edited) Just a simple answer: Kessler The Cross is not usefull for carving and worse on carving with softboots. You can buy China-Made labels which are way better for carving and less then the half price. Kessler The Cross was built for FIS SBX (Snowboard-Cross) events and nothing else! Course of SBX World-Championchips 2013 shows you what for Kessler The Cross is good and performing best. You will find only 5 turns on a 1.0 km lenght of a course. All the 5 turns have been done on banked corners, so no carving is need. Ask Swoard how many turns they do with X-treme carving boards on a downhill lenght of 1000 m. Ask them if they do it on banked corners, or where else. Make then Your decision which board You want to ride! (If You like to follow your skiing buddy from Grand Montet 3275m down to Argentiere 1250m at Chamonix without any stops, You should take Kessler The Cross, maybe Kessler The Ride, which is softer) Edited June 4, 2013 by snowmatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegtal Posted June 4, 2013 Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 Snowmatic, are you serious ? Honestly ? Would you say the same for Oxess, SG, Apex, Green... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermes45 Posted June 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 (edited) For Snowmatic, Thank´s very much for your answer. If the Kessler Cross is not good for the carving, why the Sword Dual will be good ? Those twoo boards are very similar... (perhaps that flex of the Kessler is more hard than Swoard Dual...) More, on the web site of Kessler, the Cross is very good and easy with softboot....:rolleyes: Edited June 4, 2013 by hermes45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 Those twoo boards are very similar... They would be very different boards, I guess... At 168 length, Dual is 10m radial cut, Kessler something like 10-16m variable cut. I didn't ride either of those, but I have Kessler Bx 168 (built narrow for h/boots) and have ridden Swoard 168H. Swoard wants to lock in and rail. Kessler accelerates through turn and wants to shoot out. I can EC on both. Kessler is more versatile but I'm always scared that I'll brake it or bend it (titanal). In the case of Dual and Kessler, I'd imagine that Dual could be more versatile... To say that BX board is not usefull for crving is a bit of overstatement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermes45 Posted June 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 You have ridden a SWOARD EC and me, I compare a Cross Kessler 163 with a Swoard Dual 163 (all the Dual have the same flex, not S,M,H,XH) !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegtal Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 Please, have a look at tech specs of those boards, The Cross and Dual. You'll see that, on the paper, they don't share that much caracteristics, decambered vs classic camber, variable cut vs radial cut, titanal vs glass + carbon, low and short tip and tail vs classic tip and tail. There's a part of marketing in the way they tell you what those boards are built for and you won't go to hell if you try carving with the Kessler or BX with the Dual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 You have ridden a SWOARD EC and me, I compare a Cross Kessler 163 with a Swoard Dual 163 (all the Dual have the same flex, not S,M,H,XH) !!! I can only offer you what I can... Take it or leave it. As pegtal suggested, look at the specs and shapes, you'll understand that they are quite different boards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermes45 Posted June 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 Lot of riders ride on a Swoard Dual for the BX and there are not much differences on the specs about Dual 163 and Kessler Cross 163.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 Lot of riders ride on a Swoard Dual for the BX and there are not much differences on the specs about Dual 163 and Kessler Cross 163.... I am not aware of anyone riding Dual on the WC... Yeah, many use skis for cross, so they must be really similar to motorbikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegtal Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 (edited) Lot of riders ride on a Swoard Dual for the BX and there are not much differences on the specs about Dual 163 and Kessler Cross 163.... Well, ok, anyway. Since nobody can compare riding experiences for those two boards, you should try them both, to make your own opinion. There are test sessions for Swoard boards, but it will be much more difficult for Kessler. Edited June 6, 2013 by pegtal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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