Skalpel Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 Hello :) I always wanted to long board and every summer the wish comes up again and again. But the problem is, I really don’t know that much about this things.. This time I've put some money together, so I'll buy me a deck soon. The thing is, I need suggestions. Now, I don’t want a city cruiser.. I like downhill carving (I’m sure you all know this video: ) I know it will be a long road until i can carve like that, but hey, the wish keeps burning in me. So, I need a deck that is best suited for this kind of carving + an occasional drive to work or school, but downhill with sliding and control, that is the main wish….<o></o> <o></o> Any help would be awesome.<o></o> cheers<o></o> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 That would be a speedboard, lots of fun...there are a number of choices Top mount, Drop deck Dropthough and even Double drop...might I recommend some reading at silverfish specificly in the speedboarding section My speedboards a Topmount and a Dropthrough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpel Posted August 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 Hey, thanks for the reply! Those sure are nice boards.. What trucks and wheels do you reccomend for a speed board? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpel Posted August 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 Any of you have any expiriance with the Landyachtz Evo? I'm just reading the reviews of it on Silverfish, like Gecko suggested, and the decks seems good... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 EVO is a great board....I can't stand them but it's a very good board the wedging dewedging thing that the evo has doesn't work for me but it's still one of the most common boards. The style is a little outdated, as far as how you approach turning but that doesn't stop Scoot Smith from winning races. One thing is true Learning to footbrake and drift on an EVO is much easier than a top mount and still a little easier than a drop through. If you heart is set on an Evo, RII180's and Lime BigZigs make a combo that you can't really go wrong with but make sure you get a full face, kneepads and make some slide gloves...when you go fast protective equipment is more important than your board as a side note some people find that the stock RII plate with is 50degrees is too twitchy dewedging can fix this problem but I would recommend a 42 or 35 degree plate instead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavechaser Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Don't forget to checkout Kebbek boards - http://www.kebbek.com/ I know you are in Slovenia - but check out the completes for sale at Mile High here in Colorado. It will give you an idea of some different setups at least. http://www.milehighskates.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=28&sort=3a&page=1 And like Gecko said - get good safety gear, including a full-face helmet, before even thinking of going over 30 mph...leathers over 40. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpel Posted August 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Thank you both for the ideas and tips. To tell you the trouth, I do not have a death wish, so safety is definetly a priority. So, when I buy a deck with all the other parts, those parts include a full face helmet and other protective hear. Knee pads without doubt, sliding gloves anb perhaps elbow pads. Later, if this sport sticks (it will, without a doubt), then cometh the leather. Untill then I can use my leather jacket and I'll be a heavy metal longboarder :D Put on some torn jeans, a chain by my side and a leather jacket, that would turn some heads :) Sadly, this sport is not well known in my country. I know there are longboarders, dont know any personaly and people dont even know what a longboard is, so I definetly will stand out :) But that is part of the fun :D One more. The trucks. Should I buy (talking about Randal here) downhill or RII 180? I've read that downhills are incredably stable (those speed wobles look scary :) ) and if you loosen them up, they are ok for carving... So, what would be better? Thanks again for the help. you guys are great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Check out Concrete Wave in Germany their prices seem in line with stateside and it's in euro's. DON"T get Randal Downhills they don't turn and they are too narrow. Buy RII 180's and if they are too turny try changing bushings first and then switch to a 42 degree baseplate rear and then maybe front as well (depends on what you prefer but as speed climbs the 42 pletes will be nice) BTW a good setup from Concrete Wave would be a Madrid Drop 41 Randal RII 180mm Lime Big Zigs, 76mm earthwing Superballs or Blue Avilas my drop though is similar except with 42 degree plates wobs are in your head and of course weak ankles but mostly in your head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavechaser Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Thank you both for the ideas and tips. To tell you the trouth, I do not have a death wish, so safety is definetly a priority. So, when I buy a deck with all the other parts, those parts include a full face helmet and other protective hear. Knee pads without doubt, sliding gloves anb perhaps elbow pads. Later, if this sport sticks (it will, without a doubt), then cometh the leather. Untill then I can use my leather jacket and I'll be a heavy metal longboarder :D Put on some torn jeans, a chain by my side and a leather jacket, that would turn some heads :) Sadly, this sport is not well known in my country. I know there are longboarders, dont know any personaly and people dont even know what a longboard is, so I definetly will stand out :) But that is part of the fun :D One more. The trucks. Should I buy (talking about Randal here) downhill or RII 180? I've read that downhills are incredably stable (those speed wobles look scary :) ) and if you loosen them up, they are ok for carving... So, what would be better? Thanks again for the help. you guys are great Randal Downhills are stable mostly due to the 35 or 28 degree baseplates - but they are only 160mm wide. Randal R-II's are a better width for downhill - 180mm - but come on a more turny / less stable 52 degree baseplate. You could buy both, and make some "franken randals", using the 180 hangars on the DH baseplates - plus you'd then have the 160mm hangars to put on the 52 degree baseplates to use as turnier carving trucks or for a second carving board...everybody needs a quiver dontcha know! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 just a caveat....42degree plates are much higher quality control than the 35 degree DH plates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Check out Concrete Wave in Germany their prices seem in line with stateside and it's in euro's. +1 for that. Contact Heiko there and you will get good service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpel Posted August 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Thanks for concrete wave link :) will definetly check it out. RII 180 are a better option, then.. How does a flat surface compare to a Evo surface (dont know how to describe it, sorry.. droped middle deck? :) ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 Thanks for concrete wave link :) will definetly check it out. RII 180 are a better option, then.. How does a flat surface compare to a Evo surface (dont know how to describe it, sorry.. droped middle deck? :) ) RII's are better Evo is a Drop deck very stable but reduced turning leverage, it drifts easilly in corners, harder to make stick in corners if you look at the my two boards the one on the left is a Topmount not as stable, lots of leverage, sticks really well, harder to drift the one on the right is a Dropthrough call it a mix of the other two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpel Posted August 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 I really think that my first setup will be a Landyachtz evo with RII180 and Lime BigZigs.. the Randals and Limes keep poping up everywhere, so it will be a good choice I'm shure.. And the Evo.. well, I like it. I like the shape, the graphics.. the reviews are all positive.. :) But thenagain its more then a month untill I buy it and things can change.. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 not that there is anything wrong with an EVO RII Lime setup but do yourself a favor if you decide on it and buy a 42 or 35 degree plate (42 will likely be just fine) for the front of your EVO as a 50 degree front is a bit twitchy with that wedging Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 Evo + Kahalani's would be one nice stup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpel Posted August 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 Oh, I'll buy the 42 plates... I've made out of the past posts, that it'll be bether this way... What are the other options with the trucks? Kahalanis look nice, but waaaay over the budget :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paragonUE Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 RAYNE DEMONSEED. my personal suggestion and speedboard dream Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpel Posted August 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 Hey again! :) I have a few questions about the equpment. Helmets. Really thinking about a full face one, so: What kind of helmets do you use? Motocross helmets? and.. Do the spacers and speed rings come with the trucks/wheels? tnx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 Hey again! :)I have a few questions about the equpment. Helmets. Really thinking about a full face one, so: What kind of helmets do you use? Motocross helmets? and.. Do the spacers and speed rings come with the trucks/wheels? tnx Helmets depend on speed...I used a Bell Bellistic MTB helmet, though there is nothing wrong with using a MX helmet it's stronger and probably can be found for cheaper...most truck come with speed rings. Spacers are sometimes included with bearings though much less often now than a few years ago. It is worth the money to get steel spacers, the last forever and induce very smooth rolling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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