kumimajava Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 So this is my first winter on a hardboot setup - i thought i had all the kit together (board, boot & bindings)... except now there's one problem: I tried to wear the boots for a bit 'longer' than just a brief 'try on', and they feel really painful on my left ankle - right one is fine. The boots are Raichle/Deeluxe LeMans (blue ones...no idea how old - got them used). I've played around with the in-boot cant settings, but that doesn't fix the problem. There seems to be too much pressure on the inside of the ankle (only in one spot though - so i don't think that's problem of canting, rather an issue of "bad fit"). So the dielmma: should i bite the bullet & buy a new set of heal-moldable/thermoflex boots now (I could feasibly get a pair of Deeluxe Track's or Indy's) - or stick to these guys till end of season & try to get something for next season. getting another pair now seems expensive, but then I'm worried that with the current setup, I might just get off to a "bad" start with carving & not endure a whole day. thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfj04 Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 Is the boot cant the same on each boot? Are you sore from wearing them or riding them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumimajava Posted February 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 i've not ridden in them yet - that's what i'm worried about... if it feels uncfomortable just "standing", i expect it could be worse when riding. tried the same cant on both, & tried different too ... i've gone throught the whole range of "adjustability" on the cant in the left boot - still the same problem. :( the right one feels ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C5 Golfer Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 If the right feels good I believe you are not too far off on getting the left to fit. Is the pain an area pain or a spot pain? If a spot area can you feel a hard spot inside the boot or possibly if you are using Intec system is the cable laying towards the back or possibly on top of a pressure point? tough to say what is wrong but have you gone into a bootfitter and have them fix it ??-- seems that is the way I'd go before spending more $$$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pow Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 you should first go to a bootfitter to fix the problem, get the liners molded and nice insoles put in to make them feel better than your fuzzy slippers... id guess you can probably fix the problem by molding the liners or getting new liners to mold. You dont have to replace the whole boot to get it comfy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumimajava Posted February 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 thanks guys. unfortunately, where I live, I don't think there a good bootfitter anywhere around - i couldn't even find a shop that sells "harboot snowboard" gear. so pretty much any kit I get, I have to either travel to London for, or get via mail-order / internet. given that prior to my next boarding trip i'm too busy to tavel, the only alternative to fixing the current pair myself myself is to get a pair of thermoflex liners/boots online. Current boots don't have a moldable liner - just a standard one. Cosmetically the inside of the left boot looks exactly like the right one - and no Intec cables etc. it's a bit strange, since the pain is not there when i'm not putting any weight on the foot (i.e. if i put on the boots & sit down in a chair - no pain. the moment I stand up & stay upright for over 1 minute, the pain returns). maybe i'll just go find a chisel & "shape" the ankle to fit ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleaman Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 As far as I know, the stock liners from Deeluxe are thermofit. I bought a pair of lemans boots about 5 years ago and they were heat moldable. try doing them yourself before you give up, check out these links. http://www.yyzcanuck.com/E_tech_cooking.htm http://www.telemarkski.com/html/how_mold_liner.html http://www.bomberonline.com/store/boots/molding_liners.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galen Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 You don't really need a "boot fitter" unless the shells have to be punched out. A good ski shop should be able to set you up with and shims, heel frames, foot beds etc.., and also have a set up for molding liners. I got mine done for 50$ US, including the heat molded foot bed. Like someone said, you may just need to re-mold the liner, not too hard to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markp Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 Any ski shop can do molded foot beds. They are worth the $$> If that can't be, just put a good pair of othotics in the boots. Cheap foot beds don't give proper arch support, and we put alot of pressure on those poor arches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumimajava Posted February 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 Thanks guys for all the input. Unfortunately, the liner I have now is non-moldable (the LeMans comes with three types of liner - non-moldable, thermoFIT (moldable footbed), and thermoFLEX (fully moldable)). Regrettably, I have the first version. Will look into having a set of moldable footbeds - and failing that, will try to find a moldable liner & do it myself. Thanks again :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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