johnstewart Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 So with the pair of T2's I've been riding, the allen screws holding the binding to the cant plate have come loose at least once, and the screws holding the bindings to the board have been loose occasionally. This is with no locktite or anything else. I didn't want to go this route as I figured I'd be fiddling with them a lot. However, I've got them pretty much where I want for now. I've used teflon tape (the stuff you use when plumbing to prevent leaks) on other bindings with no problems. Locktite seems like a bad idea - I don't want any extra crud in there. What do others use/recommend to keep the bindings from getting loose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Donnelly Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 BEST - to use a "T" handle (5mm) if at all possible for both install and remove. Better leverage/torque and less likely to strip the head. You know you had them snug when you remove them a "T" wrench and you hear a pop/snap. THIS never happened with an "L" shaped allen wrench. Be forwarned, if you bench tighten with a "T" wrench you may not be able to make adjustments (easily) on the hill with a "L' wrench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnstewart Posted February 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 Well, how tight should these suckers be? Is there a torque spec someplace for them, or are you essentially saying I *can't* strip them out with the L wrench? I especially worry about stripping out the inserts on the board... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 I use the L-wrench for the screws which comes with the bindingpackage. I screw them tight till they won't go any further. They hasn't come loose yet. I don't use glue or any product. Riding it for 12 days now without problems. I only give the topscrews a 2 mm tighter. It is advisable to check your screws before you go riding every time. Greets, Hans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Donnelly Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 John, With an L shape wrench, I felt as if I was going to either strip a head or bust a knuckle. With the T wrench, you kind of get a sense when to stop. I am not overly bearing down but I feel more confident than if I had used an L wrench. Especially so with the bolts thru the binding into the base plate. I have used a T wrench on 8 or so different boards over 4 seasons and have not experienced any issues of bolts or inserts becomming loose. Similar reason I replaced the Intec heel phillips head screws with stainless steel (M5?) metric insert/head bolts. I did not feel confident with the tightness using a screwdriver. It seemed over time one of the eight screws would be loose, or stripped or worse yet, had to be drilled out to remove. Then you might hear a story or witness a heel becomming loose, that is scary on step-ins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 No really, grease your heads. The screw heads. (man, how do I keep this post out of the gutter?) The friction of the large surface area of the Bomber screw head against the binding slot gives you a false torque. You think your screws are tight, when in fact they're just tight against the head, not the threads. DON'T grease the threads. -Jack (thanks to Bob Jenney for this tip) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Donnelly Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 Bob's tip to use Pedro's Syn grease (every riding day) on the Intec heel pins has greatly reduced the wear rate on my new (heel) receivers. Will give the screw heads a dab next. Pedro's is carried at your finer bicycle shops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 Originally posted by yyzcanuck I lube the thread and the head. No problems either. umm..... ahh..... oh never mind. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschurman Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 Always use lube! It's just a better overall experience. On your binding parts, of course. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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