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I just returned from my short stint at Copper and thought I'd share. I arrived late Friday 20th, had some nasty food & worse Margaritas at a Mexi restaurant in the village and went back to the Cirque with my 5 other buds and got caught up on old times, red wine and cold brewz. Saturday was gorgeous and cold (-12° at night and around 2° light). As long as you were in the sun it was great and there was no wind. I had my new Axis, TD2's set at 20° (:o ) and 123 boots with new liners. Since I only get to board once or twice a year it took a bit to acclimate but I soon was skidding again like always :rolleyes: . I spent most of that wonderful day on greens served over by the lumberjack, trying to get an edge on freestyle angles. The evening at the Cirque was highlighted by our Chicken white bean chili, a variety of micro's and two reprimands from security - one at the hot-tub and one in the room (really it was very harmless - just a buncha middle aged doods getting a bit loud on a sing-along and a hippie playing Pink Floyd on an acoustic :sleep: ). Day next I decided I was pro enough to change to my race board, F2 RS so I put on the TDs again at 20° and found that day I could skid just as well on the RS as any other setup I've used :) - I'm a 10 year skid vet so this is all I know except to say that with this message board I've become familiar with an elusive groove called carving. I did find that I was getting a bit more freestyle edge on the RS than the Donek. I never really worried about my boots hanging over the edge of the board because I knew I wasn't getting any kind of real carve to speak of and I can tell the difference by the sound the board makes. Monday started with four of my friends leaving in the AM (all skiers) and left just my and my freestyle board bud to tear up those greens :D and a bit of the Maz (blue run) which I really liked. And that's pretty much how Monday went, enjoying the now warming and completely cloudless day and tearing it up best as I knew how. I'm getting a bit wiser in my age and we never pushed any day too hard,,,,out by 10 or so and back in usually by 2-2:30. That made it great from a fatigue standpoint and this is the first year I had very mild spills 'cuz I was fresh & pretty on top of my skid game :p . Ok, so Tuesday, my last chance before I head back to the Indiana plains we drive to Silverthorne and pay Bomber a visit where I met Fin, Kim and,,,Jef,,'er Brian,,,crap!,,I can't remember - cool surfer/carver type - sorry I spaced the name my friend :o . So in their busy-ness (Michelle was at a trade show in Vegas) Fin took time to mold my liners and then I asked him about angles. He asks what I'm riding and how I have it set now. I said F2 speedster, 20° front & back! He says,,,'Huh?',,did you say 20? :D . He says how can you do that without booting out and I say, uh, cuz I suck and I'm still skidding. He then very nicely educated me on angles, bias and other issues. So I went back to Copper and set the angles at 50/45 and we headed for the Lumberjack again. I gotta tell you it was an absolute fright getting off the lift and feeling like I was starting anew and I couldn't turn - skidding was laborious and I had difficulty doing much of anything. I did eventually get down fine and as we rode the slow lift back up we got to talking and my soft boot bud says something to the effect of, 'well that's a race board; try going faster - that thing needs to run!' Without drawing things and discoveries out further let's just say that was the ticket more than anything I tried through the week. I don't know what motions I did but I felt a different turning process and inclination that I have never done before. I had no clue the different binding angles would produce such a different world but it forced me to figure things out. With an uncrowded green run that's what we did for most of the day; later graduating to the Maz and Andy's Encore (blues). After awhile my friend says, 'I can't keep up with you anymore'. ;) I still really have very little grasp other than this feeling I was getting when I locked onto something that felt right - I know that's not the criteria for good technique but I'm a big believer in just go do it and the body figures it out in time. Months previous back home I had done some dryland excercises, read some tech articles (not enough) and had phone numbers and communiques from carvers in the area happy to go out with me on some runs. A couple weeks before I headed out my computer took a poop so all those contacts were lost & I resorted to trial & error. As everyone in Copper says, 'no worries' - it was a fabulous experience and I learned a bit and enjoyed a lot. I found the lift line looks and comments on my equipment amusing. Of course the most common - are those ski boots? to 'look at that board' to a kid about 10 years old; "Wow!! - Cool bindings dude!" (way to go Fin!) I was surpised that I never saw any hard boots - I know y'all don't hang out much at the Lumberjack or Soliloquy but even in lines, on board racks - no hards, no plates. Then I figured the hard booter is that elusive ilk - kind of like a pack of wolves; solitary, frolicking and free from the confines of the ordinary. Now I have to try to figure out how to get to Aspen in March (my dad has a place there) but February SES won't happen for me this year....next year; different story Thanks to all the kind words from fellow carvers, thank you Fin & co - hope to see you all next year, meanwhile I'll go back and read all the tech articles and prepare for the next run. Cheers you all lots, Greg

2004 Volcom Science snowboard pants, I believe they’re a medium (I can’t find a size tag). My inseam is 32” and my waist varies from 33-34” depending on my condition and these pants were perfect. They look close to as new and there is no damage or wear marks. New Volcom pants average around $200.00 $85.00 including Priority shipping, obo. Thank you.

Deal al finis, thank you Brian!

I have accepted an offer and sale finalization is pending.

For Sale <ST1:pBurton </ST1:pRace Plates Only briefly mounted but never ridden. Includes rear cant plate, 3 & 4 hole discs, two different hardness binding base cushions, boot plate, all the screws and instructions. PR from the box: *Shortest diagonal length *Shortest overall length *PHYSICS* *Anatomical canting *Diagonally short for stance variety on narrow boards *Adjustable dampening & flex *Light weight <O:p</O:p Team: Betsy Shaw, Chris Klug, Martin Freinademetz <O:p</O:p Asking $135.00 plus some small change to ship – email me for paypal or send me your best offer, thank you.

Reside in Indiana, Former speedskater Enjoy waterski. Build guitars for a living and play in a rock band (you're looking at my avatar and going, 'no way, really?') Advice to anyone not wanting to age: Don't sit still ;)

I'm curious if anyone knows (I was just looking at the happy monkey site). When a board is made of wood is the bend in the tip and tail actually a steaming/heat bending of the wood or is the curve cut from a wood billet? Anyone know?

Skiers and boarders are two different ilk, think and move on completely different lines and are bound to clash in many ways. I enjoy my board liberation yet keep a cautious eye for anything behind.

Say it's so,,,it be gone! :(

Check em

I just got sniped on a new one on the Bay - New with Bombers, went for 475.... :(

Appreciate the response - as Artie would say, "Veddy interesting!"

I've never seen this before especially being a rookie, but what is the deal with a mono board it looks like a ski? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7200309775

Bryan, are you the one sending me Devin's Nitro board?

I bought this on eBay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8726334862 It was $75.00, nice bag you might want to check out. 2 things though: - It says ' will hold up to 181c'. My 173 barely fits - anything much over that and it probably wouldn't fit. - It also says ' two rigid supports run half way down the back'. Well it's more like a third of the way. Room for couple boards and boots, etc. Thought I'd just pass it along, Greg

I'm in N Indiana - learned at Boyne Highlands, et al.

Yipes what is it with PBR and you Coloradians? We use that stuff to activate the compost :lol: I was visiting Copper last year and we ate at this joint and the waitress apologized for running out of PBR. I said 'that's ok just bring me a real beer' and it was like the scene from a movie where everyone looks at the guy who said the wrong thing,, :o

I was just lookin' at boostertwo's pic of the skiier doing the cut. He appears to be carving but not keeping the skiis tight together like we were taught years ago. Must be the parabolic edge is more forgiving then? I was also thinking that the way they used to teach us to ski parallel makes me think they were trying to teach us to make 2 skiis one....um, like a board? :D

Heya Frank - I skiied for over 30 years before turning to the board. I was an expert skiier and hit most any terrian. In my opinion I see no comparison in technique, or experience; although when I skiied there were no parabolics so I'm sure that changes the ski carve level. Even still skidding around agressively as I have for a number of years (soon to be carving on the board you sent):) I find the board much more freeing and exciting. I believe it is soul surfing on the snow. The flip side of course is sure - what've you got to lose?, try it! I really enjoyed skiing,,,,until I strapped on a board that izzz ;) Btw I too play the 6 string plank. 'matter of fact I build them - please accept the shameless plug & check out my site if you want: http://www.gmreszel.com Greg

Well, it's actually January b4 I'll use it, but thank you just the same! Greg

Board received, transaction was well attended and hassle free. Thanks Frank, Greg

This is cool - but he wants $100.00 to ship!,,,,I sent him a little message :) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7197089190

And how much riding time on it?

Got pictures? Sent email, thank you.

This is really very helpful and the kinda thing I'm talkin' about where you can take this text and info and internalize it. I'll analyze Jerry's words one by one, take the board to the carpet and there's another notch closer to carve overdrive. I've also found some instruction at alpinecarving.com Ta so very much Jerry