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I will be there with 2 of my softbooter friends. I am going to take out the black donek FC 179 in the morning. In the afternoon I will probably switch to my red donek sasquatch 170. I'll be in a black jacket, red helmet, grey pants, radio set to channel 17, code 7.
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although im pretty good at carving on soft equipement.....thats nto me in the photo. its another board member. I dont get that leaned over. it looks like he has higher angles, but im just speculating
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yes that is on soft equipment. im not sure who it is but other board members do
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sometimes there is a tiny bit of base bevel...but usually 0/0
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where do you get your inspiration shred?
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ive seen it done by Wayne, the surf-rods person. He rode such a setup with high angles on a narrow board quite well. All it needs is a third strap.
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ouuuuuuuch. At least he had a helmet
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To the o.p.:
You're talking about going to your 3d bootfitter in roughly 3 weeks at the ECES, and in the meantime trying to make more bootfitting decisions for yourself after looking at advice here, after having dropped your boots off a 2d time at Surefoot. That's kind of like carrying your turkey around to three different restaurants to get it roasted on Thanksgiving.
It sounds like the first bootfitter you went too was not easily accessible for a return visit? A guy you visit at ECES would not be, either, in all likelihood. Bootfitting often takes several visits, particularly if you sized your shells right to begin with...and you are not being fair to any bootfitter or yourself if you don't stay the course through the process (assumming they're not proprosing toe amputation or something else really whack).
So, my 2 cents, rather than speaking to foam or Zip Fits, etc. directly is: get thee back to Surefoot, which sounds accessible, talk to them, and work it through with them.
I dont appreciate being accused of "not being fair" to any of these people, especially when all of the detailed facts are not laid out. The first bootfitter I went to simply was not good. The people at surefoot are good, but they will not install a thermoflex liner. My pain is at the level where it is prohibitively painful. I can only snowboard one day and then I have to stop. Therefore, I am trying to fix this as soon as possible.
If my boots are truly too big, and all the shims in the world dont help, then im probably going to go for the thermofit liner if such a liner would help. In the worst case im going to buy new boots. In the best case some tongue shims and the overnight stretchign will help.
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there might be some demo stuff at windham...i copied this from the windham trip thread ->
CARVING BOARDS, BINDINGS AND BOOTS ARE AVAILABLE IN THE
DEMO SHED. CONTACT THE WINDHAM MOUNTAIN SPORTS SHOP
AT 518-734-4300. ASK FOR AJ or Kate.
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hmmm....im decently big at 220-230. Are those thrmoflex liners really squishy? perhaps the conform'able ones would be ok due to my weight.
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I love my donek sasquatch 170 for carving in soft boots. I dont know much about the oxygen, but if you like carving in softboots I would recommend a donek. If the new price of 400 is too steep for you I did a breif search in the classifieds which yeilded this:
http://www.bomberonline.com/VBulletin/showthread.php?t=9893&highlight=donek+incline
apparently its still for sale for $100, although it doesnt seem to be in perfect condition.
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IMO, if you paid Surefoot $190 for their custom insoles, they should do whatever is necessary to make the boot fit properly. That would include any shims to get rid of heel slop.
That said, Conform'able liners are great. They'll probably hurt a lot the first few days, but then be terrific. I've used Thermoflex liners before, but never in Head boots. They'll probably be fine, but I like the Head liners so far.
I will request tongue shims tomorrow. This is frustrating! But its worth it.
If the tongue shims wont do the trick, i'm leaning more and more to the thermofit liners.
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Snow|3oarder,
Before you go that route, I'd recommend getting Surefoot or someone to make you a custom footbed. That should be able to take up some of the heel slop you have, and if you have Surefoot do the work, they'll also do any additional work necessary to get the boots to fit right. Surefoot loves to sell Conform'able liners so if you do end up taking that route, they'll be happy to help you. The Conformable liners would fit fine in your Stratos Pros since both the Head liner and the Sidis one have traditional tongues. I haven't tried it, but my suspicion is that the Conform'ables will make your boots feel stiffer overall. If you go that route, let us know what you think of the results.
I'm very happy with my Head boots with Surefoot insoles in them. There's a Surefoot in NYC.
I actually already have custom insoles from surefoot. I went there today and dropped of my boots. They arleady streched the shells because one of my ankles is big and creates a pressure point against the shell. While the first stretching helped alot, I still have some residual pain. I also began to notice that I have a decent amount of heel slop. I did try some of those ankle pads that are adhered to the back of the liner, and they didnt help much. Maybe if I play around a little more they will work better.
Realizing that my heel moves around quite a bit - coupled with the observation that I didnt have any pain when my liners werent packed in - its possible that the boots may even be a little to big for me. Im going to check on that when I pick up my boot tomorrow. I thoguht that liners might be able to solve that problem.
I am also concerned about hte stiffnes of the foam injected liners. If i can find a thermofit that fits the head, that seems like a better alternative. Both types that bomber sells come in a 31, so that should fit, right?
those eliminator tongue shims from tognar seem like a possible fix. has anyone tried them?
if i order the thermofit liners, is there a bootfitter at Sugarloaf that can help me out during ECES?
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Will be out bright and early...probably on the red donek sasquatch 170 (freeride)...but if my ankle feels up to it i'll bring out the FC 179
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i'm contemplating putting these in the head stratos pros. I'm not sure if they fit in my 31.5 boots, but I will find out.
My heel tends to have some movement in my boot, and that Is why I am considering liners. This causes some irritation by my ankle. Do you think that getting liners will minimize heel movement?
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Most people seem to run 2 on the side, 1 on the bottom. However, if you are new to tuning and your board is new, you may want to ask a professional to do the intial tune and watch how they perform it. If you go to hunter, being from bk, philty o's in tannersville is a decent place to get a hand tune done.
Waxing is pretty easy. You can use a regular iron, preferably without holes. However a cheap ski/snowboard iron may be worthwhile because they seem to have a more constant temperature which makes waxing easier. Harder waxes seem to work better in the northeast because the conditions are so abrasive.
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Im wondering if these are worth the relatively steep price.
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sounds like good advice...in case you didnt look at the welcome center, there are tons of articles on technique
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what tips and tricks did he bestow upon you?
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A while back I had an instructor tell me that I should be using twist on my freeride board. At the time it helped......however I only learned to carve properly the followign year when I bought stiffer freeride boots and focused on proper technique. I dont consciously twist now.
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also the startingate in vt
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bomber should have a disclaimer about how addictive and costly this is....and how much fun it is too
Almost lost my intec heels today!
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wow thats scary