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UPDATE: located below So I have started the thread last year but now this season (mainly today), I tried a lot combination of cant and lift to find the set up for myself. It was so much screwing and unscrewing but here it is: **i was happy/ok with front lift + rear lift and inward cant but wanted to try different combo to see if any other set up felt better.... As I had UPZ boots with mondo size 26.5, it was alot of screwing and unscrewing on TD3 SW!!! Now I need to rest my hands........... I used f2 bindings for 1.) to 3.) then bomber td3 sw for 4.) to 7.) then for 8.), i went back to f2 binding. 1) front lift w/ inward cant + rear lift with inward cant - front: felt hitting too much outer shin, on heel side turn, front was chattering but toe side had good turn and felt more comfy than heel side for sure 2.) front lift + rear lift w/ inward cant - front: felt good and a bit outer shin bang on flat runs - heel side turn still chatters on steep hill at front leg area but less than 1.) but has nice curve during less steep area. Maybe weight shift issue??? 3.) front lift w/ outward cant + rear lift with inward cant - uncomfortable heel side - still chatters at the front 4.) bomber td3: front lift with slight inward +rear lift with inward cant but lots less heel lift and cant than f2 - disaster, it just want to go heel side and feels that tail comes out like over steer on heel side turn. - toe side turn is much harder to do and need to use upper body to initiate more - rear feet felt it was hitting more on the inside cuff - front feet was hitting too much outter cuff - conclusion is inward cant at front is no no 5.) front lift only + rear lift with inward cant but less than f2: front has very very slight outward cant to see if i need slight boot outward cant. It is only 5 deg difference from the base to the plate. Rear is same as 4.) - i felt that if i leaned into more, it felt like it stuck more to the ground on nose area. Is it bc there are already set back and i have too much lift? - still felt like the board always wanted to go to heel side much more than toe side but i felt a bit more comfortable than before. - on flats, board want to go more left(heel side) than right (toe aide) 6.) felt i had too much lift hence change the front to 3 deg lift and rear to 6 deg lift Front 3 deg lift only (56/7deg) + rear 6 deg heel lift with inward cant (rear has inward base angle 65, upper plate angle 49 deg - felt much better than previous and it does not want to go left like before but when it is on flat, it had very slight tendency. - front had more stick and less wobble than before and comfortable on heel side unlike before where it had wobble on the front during heel side. - first run felt like i need a bit more inward cant?? - second run felt the same and needs a bit more inward cant. Maybe flat fron may be one idea. 7.) front is same as 6.) + rear more inward cant than 6.) as i felt cuff hit more inward on run with 6.) set up. Maybe it can also shift the wait more to the front with more inward cant? Observe for cuff and any tendency to move to left. - rear inward cant changed to 80 deg for base and 49 deg for upper plate - more inward than before - it was good but perhaps it was a bit twitchy on flat surface 8.) flat front + rear lift w/ cant inward (f2 binding) - the fromt leg got pretty tired and i was hitting on the back cuff alot with my caff masucle = usually means lift is needed to bring back to neutral position. In conclusion: I am going back to where it started with front lift + rear lift with inward cant with f2 bindings. TD3 SW vs F2: For me (148lbs), I felt that TD3 SW is too stiff even with yellow paddings. I felt TD3 SW were more responsive but twitchy. Also, it was hard to find the width for TD3 bindings for UPZ 26.5 as the adjustment is not fine and more corse. it was either a bit too tight or too loose. F2 is easy to find tuen the width for the boots and much more finer tuning regards to boot width. However, TD3 has much better finer adjustment for lift/cant and followed this website which helped alot to set up TD3: http://www.alpinecarving.com/tmtd2/ Now that I found my lift and cant, I am gonna play around with set-back and stance width to find my "preference". Angles that I like now is 60 deg front and 49 deg rear . Maybe someone can shed light on how you have manage to find your "preference"

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I have mint condition (literally, I only used it for 1 runs on the slope and carpet carving in the living room) Bomber TD3 Sidewinder for sale. It has yellow pads and yellow base rubber (soft). Reason for sale: I wanted to get back into metal bindings but as I have Mondo 26 UPZ RC-10 boots, adjusting the binding angles are just too much work compared to other bindings. If you have bigger size UPZ boots then it should be ok but never tried it myself though. My loss is your gain!! Price: SOLD within USA

Sword is sold

Did you end up with F2 race ti bindings?

Thank you for your reply. When I checked the TD3 SW, my upz boots barely clears the bail, maybe slight filing is needed to ensure there is no contact. It seems like it is unavoidable but to disassemble the toe and heel bail if i need to change the angle... as it gets too expensive to have multiple set ups. Is there any other tips of UPZ and TD3 SW combo?

I was setting up for coming weeks to ride with RC-10 and TD3 SW (standard bail) and I was noticing that what people were talking about. The sole is much shorter than deeluxe and I really had to move the bail inward in order to fit correctly but by doing so, I have no direct access to the bolts that adjust the angle for TD3 SW. That means I have to unbolt the bail section in order to access the angle bolts which is super annoying. Also there isn't quite good snap of standard bail once RC-10 is buckled into the binding like I used to with Deeluxe boots. If I move the bail system closer to each other, it is too tight for the boot to "buckle in" Has anyone experienced similar outcome with combination of RC-10 with bomber TD3 SW? I am curious how other people have set theirs up.

Sword is sale pending.

thank you for the offer but 178 is too big for me.

I am open to reasonable offer for each item, thank you. 1.) Allflex plate system that is medium flex Bought it brand new from Slovenia and only used 1 day on the mountain. Asking $980 shipped 2.) Swoard Extreme Carver Gen 4 that is 168cm with Medium Flex. I bought it new last year and used for 1.5 seasons (total of 7 days on the slope) There is minor blemishes from normal use on top and bottom sheet. The screw inserts are in good condition. The board has plenty of camber. The edges are smooth with NO dings SOLD

I am open to reasonable offer for each item, thank you. 1.) Allflex plate system that is medium flex Bought it brand new from Slovenia and only used 1 day on the mountain. Asking $980 shipped 2.) Swoard Extreme Carver Gen 4 that is 168cm with Medium Flex. I bought it new last year and used for 1.5 seasons (total of 7 days on the slope) There is minor blemishes from normal use on top and bottom sheet. The screw inserts are in good condition. The board has plenty of camber. The edges are smooth with NO dings Asking $600 shipped 3.) F2 Speedster SL that is 158cm in length All the specification is provided by the link here: http://www.wslc.co.jp/snow/f2/03_04/speedster_sl.htm The condition of the snowboard is good. There are cosmetic blemishes on the top sheet from bindings and normal wear from riding. The bottom sheet is in good condition with minimal amount of light scratches. Asking $180 shipped SOLD

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I have Swoard Extreme Carver Gen 4 that is 168cm with Medium Flex. I bought it new last year and used for 1.5 seasons (total of 7 days on the slope) There is minor blemishes from normal use on top and bottom sheet. The screw inserts are in good condition. The board has plenty of camber. The edges are smooth with NO dings **You can see the pictures ......... Sorry, I don't know why some pictures are turned .... Asking: $650 shipped or OBO

Everything is SOLD!!!

Deeluxe is still available

The Intec heel and binding are SOLD. The boots is still available, please let me know you are interested.

SALE PENDING on Intec heel

I have the following on sale. All price including shipping within 48 states. Item ships from Michigan. 1.) Bomber TD2 Binding: Standard Bail + Step-In ----- $175 shipped (SOLD) (Note: Comes with yellow elastomers and 3 deg and 0 deg cant disk) 2.) Deeluxe Indy Boots (Mondo 26) w/ Intec heels on the right heel ----- $175 shipped (SOLD) (boots comes with normal right heel) Liners molded only 2 times. (Note 1: Intec heels can be used with standard bail binding system (it does not interfere with standard heel bail) as well.) (Note 2: Shell = 25.0-27.5, Liner = 26) (Note 3: My mondo size is 26.3cm and I usually wear US 9 size) (Note 4: As you can see from the pictures, there is normal wear and tear as well as scuff marks) 3.) Intec Heel (Used only 1 time, very good condition) ----- $40 shipped (SOLD) (Note: Do not come in pair and only 1 as other one is attached to the Deeluxe indy that is on sale here) If you have any questions, please PM me. Thank you for looking!!

There is tons of screwing and unscrewing.... still tackling it! Since I was ok/happy with front toe lift + flat rear so I am gonna give a toe lift + heel lift a try next time i am on the slope! Maybe add small outward cant after that to see.... Thanks all for interesting ideas!

Yes, I have no inward cant on the boots by having the arrow pointed at the top (if arrow is at the bottom, boot has inward cant). Also I have minimum forward lean with RAB system since I feel that deeluxe indy already has enough forward lean.

Has anyone used outward canting? I was reading "Carver's Almanac - http://www.alpinecarving.com/binding_setup.html" and the website was talking about the binding set ups. I have been playing around with lift, canting, flat, etc for a while now and I haven't quite found the "sweet" spot for myself yet. I have been happy/ok with: 1.) front toe lift+rear flat 2.) front toe lift+rear inward cant, however, I feel there is slight chatter during heel side turn. I have tried: 1.) front inward cant+heel lift - I hated it, i feel there is too much pressure on outside of the boots. 2.) front flat+rear flat - I felt uncomfortable with it and felt there was too much weight on front leg I know there is no "right" set up for everyone but I wanted to see what other people's experience have been with set-ups. I have slight "bowlegged" when ankle is touching and Carver's Almanac was talking about outward canting. Has anyone tried it?

SOLD

Sale Pending

Thank you Alpine Ace, i was looking through their website and some how i didn't come across that. I appreciate it!