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Yellow topsheet, 2001 or 2002. Used 15-20 times, still has original or close to original camber and pop. Topsheet has indentation and tear from Bomber bindings, I cannot get my fingernail under it so I haven't tried to repair it. Some scuffing but otherwise in good shape. Plenty of base and edge left, needs tune and p-tex. It has some large scrapes in the base, but no core shots except one minor one that is repaired. This is a stiff freeride deck suitable for plates and boardercross, I used it with plates for freeriding and occasional backcountry. Specs: 168 cm length 135 effective edge 10.26 m sidecut radius 24.1 cm waist 5.0 flex index $140 plus shipping I will post pics tomorrow.

Bindings SOLD

Here are the Sims pictures. The base is dry as a bone. I will make sure to remove the metal lugs before selling...

The BS is $280 including shipping.

The TD's are sprung rear bails. I will send pictures as soon as I get the USB working.

EDIT: One last update on this. Updated specs and lowered price on the BS. I quit snowboarding and need the gas money for skiing. (okay I'm keeping my boots in case I can make SES one of these years). BS 178 - Guaranteed thrill ride. The wrapped-core model, white with "BS" in blue on topsheet and orange on base. I found the specs on an archived Bomber site. 178cm length 162.5 Effective edge 15m sidecut radius. 24.1 tip/18.8 waist/22.5 tail = 16mm taper. Used numerous times, but still has all of it's camber and pop. It is very stiff and has a lot of spring (seriously, you have to be careful about loading it up). There are bubbles on the base, not under the binding. These are stable, ie. not expanding and were there when I bought it. It is very slightly warped on the right side, manufacturer's defect, structurally sound. This is barely noticeable looking at it (if at all), and was never noticeable in riding. [RE-EDIT: It turns out that the flex is compromised. The side with the warp is slightly softer than the other side. At this point I will be keeping it so that I can cut it apart when I get the opportunity (just in case I decide to try my hand a building some day).]This was not evident in any picture I tried to take of it. Small delamination on the tail but this will be fixed. Edges and base are otherwise in good condition. Plenty of both left. Edges are harder than Rockwell 48, and hold 1/3 bevels very well. Topsheet scarred by bombers and some other binding (I bought it used). If you want an ultra high performance board that is NOT a cadillac ride, then this is the one. It is also good for less than perfect or nasty conditions. At my weight (150 lb.) this was almost a super G board. I rode it for three years and never was able to find the limits, speed or carve-wise. It will rail any ice and handles chop extremely well. This board is good for days when the groomers are less than perfect. Also very good in bumps. It should last as long as it's edges and base do (should be a while), the flex will not degrade as far as I can determine. [EDIT: PRICE - If someone still wants this board then make me a reasonable offer] 175 Donek - Lisa Kosglow model. 13.2 radius, 18.5 waist. This one is pretty soft (either 5.2 or 6.1 stiffness, but probably the former), and has 6mm of tail taper. ~65 days on it, still rides well, with some life left. Two coreshots repaired by myself. Has maybe one basegrind left (some fool took it down on the first grind), but tell them to be careful. Base bevel should be at a half-degree. Base in good condition for now, some slight scratching. Plenty of edge. Ice blue topsheet, silver "Donek" print typical Bomber scratching plus a little bit of breakage in the topsheet but not a problem. This one would be good for a skilled beginning alpiner or as an occasional "fun" board. Not a rock board. This will make a beautiful wall piece if I get to keep it, but I won't take much for it because of the base. Make an offer. TD1's in good shape, cosmetic scratching and wear, old enough that warranty is expired. Yellow (soft) 3/3 bumpers and purple (medium) 6/3 bumpers. One six degree plate, two three degree plates. All hardware. Second generation. $125 plus shipping Sims Premium 167 - 11m radius 18 waist. Fun board for soft snow. For some reason I never quite got this one dialed in although I know there are people who like these. 1999 vintage I guess. Less than 25 days on it, still has lots of pop and good camber. Slight dent in nose and fingernail-size topsheet delamn from factory (no glue) but this has not grown at all and no water leakage that I can tell. The base is in good shape but kind of hairy, only one grind done at Racer's Edge. Edges need polishing and maybe a little bit of filing, plenty left. $75

If you need to, put pressure on the edge with your toes. This will change your foot around with time, so be gentle.

Ugghg. Burton Charger

Side Fi

I just wanted to point out how important it is to do various stretches, both lower and upper body, and to get some other exercise in order to counterbalance the asymmetry involved especially in alpine boarding. And/or switch between regular and goofy, I suppose, which I will be doing from now on when I get back to snowboarding. I began noticing this summer how much asymmetry and twisting there is in my body after a few years of alpine snowboarding. When consciously aligned from the head down, my feet were comfortable at about a 40 degree angle to the rest of my body, along with a bit of torso twist from all those super angulated toesides and not so spectacular heelsides (although they did get a lot better over the past couple of years). I have noticed that good racing technique specifically avoids some of this. Now I never quite got it all right by any means, but I rode really hard most of the time, probably beyond my level of strength, and I believe some people's skills suffer because they are unknowingly protecting themselves from such injury. Also it seems apparent to me that riding regular-footed actually avoids some of this, for reasons which are probably better left unsaid, at least by myself. One thing is that good alignment as far as your setup goes makes a huge difference in being able to properly pressure the board so as to ride with good performance without hurting yourself over the long term. I have noticed that extreme angulation on the toeside can actually make heelsides more difficult and hurt your alignment as a whole. At least this is my experience as a 24 year-old,goofy-footed rider who grew up with a bit of asymmetry anyway, along with some right-ear problems. My body rebels against goofy-footed now, and regular footed feels refreshing. We shall see, I will be skiing for a little while at least, but will give snowboarding a try again at some point with my left foot forward this time. If the right side of your face is/was a little lower than the left side, be careful with goofy-footed snowboarding. You will have trouble looking into the heelside turn without some fear... man that was hard to get over. ON a related note, during the spring I had an extremely vivid instance of sleep paralysis which served to wake me up as to what was going on with my body (including my head). Yikes!!!

This is why I picked up some super g skis. I knew they weren't laying 'em over like this in GS. Check out that inside ski. Almost identical to a CMC turn. I guess I will have to work on my splits...

Nice!!! I'm stoked...

Wonderful site as always. Also you have some classic pictures in the photo site. The b&w of DIA is just indescribable. Two things: in the tech section the video link doesn't work and under Edge-Tacking I think "pre-assemble" is missing a "d". I'm taking a bit of a hiatus from snowboarding for a little while (going with skis for a little while for kinesthetic reasons, with a little regular footed in the meantime, vs. goofy-footed in the past) but upon re-entry, I might have to try one of the new-construction decks. My old 175 is almost out of base material, and I sure-as-hell ain't riding the BS every day, that's part of why I have to take it easy in the first place. My God, for those who haven't ridden one, you just don't know. At least the one I have. Truly a smite-thee-for-thy-mistakes kind of board, or at least launch you 70 feet horizontally and maybe... 2 feet vertically. But, man I got back on my Donek after riding that beast for a while, and I have to say I was mucho pleased. I'd love to have a Donek with the new construction, slightly longer and a bit stiffer... but for now I'm braving it with some Atomic 201 SGs and some 173 P40s for normal days. Anyway, I just want to give another show of support for a unique, pleasurable, and very high-performance product. Still my fav'. Nevertheless,The idea of metal in a Donek just has me drooling. One of these days, perhaps? It seems that carbon fiber and kevlar and such isn't really necessary for your boards, and the new design looks exceptional (I will certainly show up to the Session this year) even though I love the regular feel... but a layer of metal or two would, in my mind, complement the board extremely well for those wanting it. What I really mean is holy s&^t that would be an insane ride! BTW, I was wondering if you have any plans for additional ski designs? Some fatties with the new construction would be a gas.

Controlling a car to the same degree takes way more skill than a motorcycle... although not as fun. I'm scared of those things anyway.

Yeah I actually tore the crap out of mine, but it was a gradual process of stretching to deal with tendonitis that I had in my shoulder. 8 years later, it's coming back on line. I just broke the torsion spring on my parents garage door as I was ducking under, then standing up into it. Hit in just the right spot though, and now it looks like it's finally healing. Crazy... I'm only about 130 pounds, and I broke that bigass spring... Just right;

I like the looks of the freeride decks. Pointy nose, skinny waist (relatively).

I haven't ridden a Liberation, but my main board is a BS. Bola said the Liberations are more freecarve-oriented, whereas the BS's are race decks (but still make badass freecarvers). From what I could tell in the store, they appear to have a good amount of tail taper like the BS's, although I'm not sure on that. They also seem pretty damp. They have absolutely no tail. Not as stiff as the BS's, but seemed just right for freecarvers. I believe he was wrapping the cores in the older boards, I wonder if he's still doing that with the Liberations. My guess is that they are an excellent ride, just because BS's are my favorite boards by a good margin

it's all in place, "they" are just waiting for the right time for disclosure and further manipulation Drink your poison from a cup of gold... I guess Indiana had the right idea (being named after a Dog, you know)

Ski patrol: "Now let's see if you can get your shoulder UNDER the snow. "

Just a Honda Accord, 1997, cheapest model. With my previous tires, I managed to get through almost three feet of snow in this thing without problems. Now I've got Hakkepelita (sp? ) NRW' s, but where's the snow? It's got 128,000 miles on it, a few quirks but runs great. A few months ago the front axle broke, and the left wheel was lying on the ground along with some other stuff. I remember when I cracked it going over a curb... whoops. Didn't have much choice... Next car, Tacoma. A couple of years ago I was at A-Basin after a big snow, the very upper parking lot was almost full but I got one of the last spots. Later I noticed a slightly jacked-up Tacoma just sitting on TOP of the 5 foot snowbank... and have wanted one ever since.

yeah, prior may not get the rep that donek and coiler get here, but the only prior i ever rode (188 splittail) was a great ride... I think it was a newer one, but it was last year that I rode it so..... i'm no expert, but i think that was a badass board. It might be worth looking over his used and demo boards at least, and maybe that way you can get two instead of one if you plan on racing some different types of courses.

there's nothing like blind rage for a good laugh

Nah, thanks for the advice Mike. I'm not planning on doing any of the complete lifts without the help of somebody who really knows what they're doing. Instead I'm thinking I'll stick to 5-10 (probably more at first) reps of power cleans, push presses, maybe hang snatches, etc. I'm not in any kind of shape to be doing the full lifts or really low reps anyway. But I'd have trouble staying away from doing some easier ballistic stuff simply because it feels so damned good. And they seem to be the only thing that helps some old tendonitis in my shoulder. Thanks for the warning; I am kinda' reckless sometimes and need the safety reminders. I'm not interested in any wheelchair-for-life injuries; I'm still going to get more help even with the partial lifts, and will start with something like what you suggested until I feel a little more solid. Brian

I'm not sure what he did, I know little about grinding machines, but he said 80 passes and it really seems to be an excellent grind. The grind didn't quite get down to the edges, so it was mainly that big ridge that got removed. There are a couple of spots along the edge that the grinder didn't reach, but nothing I'm worrying about. Unless this board is seriously warped in such a way as to cause a 3-4 inches wide, few millimeters tall ridge down the middle of the base, there should be plenty of material left. There's a dimple in the middle of the base and if I press on it the p-tex seems to be pretty thick (compared to one on my Donek which is about as thick as a ziploc bag). The edges retained their base bevel of about 1.5 degrees, but I'm happy with the improvement so no complaints. Maybe next time I'll send my s*&t to Vermont 'cause all I need is about a grind a year. I have for the most part given up on letting someone else tune my equipment. I even thought about getting some flattening and structuring tools myself, but I'm unsure of how well that works. I do have a nice collection of hair-removal tools (for the boards - mine's already falling out anyway and I'm only 23).

Edgeworks in Denver is the only place I've been to that has consistently done excellent work. They're on Broadway a block south of Gart. I took my BS to Edgeworks recently for a stonegrind because it had a huge ridge running down the middle of the base (I guess the edges just got worn down by previous owner). When I came to pick it up, it hadn't been done yet. So the guy got to work on it, and I left. I came back later and he was still working on it. He said he'd given it 80 passes and it was basically flat. I think most shops would've made a few hard passes and left the base all hairy and probably not flat. Anyway, I was very impressed.