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Hey guys, just got back from a day on the hill with Fin's new creation. Thought I would throw up a quick review of what I think so far. I had the chance to ride the plate on 3 different boards.
#1: Team8 162 Metal BX board. This is the first metal board to come out of Team8, it has two titanal layers (Thanks Bruce!) along with an aspen core, glass, carbon, rubber, ect. 162 length, 140+ running length, 12.5 radius, very (very) stiff.
I rode this board with the plate for two runs, before switching back to run 2 BX races. These two combined create some SERIOUS edge hold. So serious that it was damn near impossible to get it to release. With the need to skid some turns while racing I do would not suggest putting the plate on a BX board, unless:
-It is a softer board, with a shorter effective edge.
-The board has a good degree of base bevel (1.5 degrees+)
For a soft boot carving board, this would be pretty hard to beat. The width of the board (26cm) combined with the larger radius makes it a lot of fun. I used Burton CO2s/ Driver Xs the whole time I was riding the combo.
#2: Kessler Custom 162. Used as my slalom board, has a 10m radius and super long effective edge. Very lively and a ton of fun to ride. This was the first alpine board I rode with the plate.
First run was sketchy to say the least, the plate gives off a very different feel. In my opinion you really have to trust that it will do its job, since you cannot really feel when you start to lose a turn. It all happens at once. Once I got into it, I was amazed. I was able to regain most of the poppiness of the board and was whipping turns just like normal.
#3: Prior WCRM 177W. Used as my GS board. Standard specs, 13m radius, 21 waist, ect. Snow was piling up a bit more and getting pushed into softer piles by the time I got on it.
First off, the board is the Olympic maple leaf topsheet, paired with TD3s, the plate makes everything look dead sexy, but about the other stuff:rolleyes:
I was amazed yet again by the edge hold and smoothness of this combo. Tracking through piles of pow felt like I was riding new groom. Times when I would usually get chatter disappeared and let me really rail the board. Stoked to race it this coming weekend.
A few notes I thought of over the day:
-The plate makes boards run (atleast in my case) a bit longer. This could be a pro when running GS on a smaller board, or a con when running a tight slalom course.
-The weight increase was noticed, but it really is negligible. Anyone who complains about the increase should go to the gym.
-I was a bit dissapointed to find out that I had to remove my TD3s to switch the plate from board to board.
-The fit and finish of the plate and hardware is beautiful. The red annodizing really puts it over the top.
-Slow speed handling is possible if you know what to do. As Fin told me and I found out, the faster you run this plate, the better it performs.
Hoping I put everything in there I wanted to. Wishing the camera would work so I could share the Prior setup, but this will have to do. If anyone has any other questions, feel free to PM me through the system.
Mike
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I was there, but that wasn't me.
I had white pants and the TLD fullface, red flannel, ect.
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Email sent.
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Board isn't new, but whats ontop certainly is so it deserves some light.
Can' wait.
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You wouldn't use the Palmer PLS system with these Kessler ones.
Ink
He means would it be an improvement over (instead) of the PLS.
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Jack,
Just saw your photos on channel 6 at 11pm, did you send them or did they scope them from here?
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Will have one of our guys there.
Hope everyone has fun.
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Will be there as well. Kessler w/ white pants or softboot and fullface helmet. Not sure.
Give a holler.
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Jack, first off super glad your mom is okay. Those pictures are crazy.
Was at Sunday River all day, crazy wind here too. Word got over around 11-12ish.
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On your eBay a, did you put something along the lines of "For sale locally, reserve the right to delete/ end any bids if sold"? I always make sure to put that incase something like that happens.
Technically you aren't held to the bidders on eBay, so there is nothing wrong with removing the item.
More money is good, too.
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Consider it sold, if the people before me back down.
currier dot northeast at yahoo dot com
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Doesn't help us at all, only in Europe.
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MikeC - I definitely don't want to cut line......let me know if you want to ship it my way and I'll buy it whenever you want.
Thanks - Ian
Maciek decided not to take in due to the fact that customs fees can be a pain.
Send me an e-mail.
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Hi - If Maciek_B doesn't take the Vertigo, I'd like it. Can you tell me what shipping would be to 12037 in NY? Thanks - Ian
Have not received an email from him as of now.
UPS is quoting me around $30 to ship.
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Hey Mike
Just wondering if the Vertigo is still available?
Sure is.
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Palmer risers are softboot only. They are plastic, and putting almost any plate binding on them would simply crush them.
Loads need to be spread out i.e. by a regular binding. I have a pair, great stuff.
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If you have the 169, I would say definetely go 177. I have a 177WCRM and wish I had gone to the 180 models. (Racer here)
The 169 is closer enough to the 173, don't think you'll really find it rides much different except for construction and maybe a small change is radius.
My $.02
Ps: I weigh 170 w/ gear and find it stiff enough. With a Vist plate it does stiffen up more and likes to run wider turns. Dont think thats in your plans though.
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Measure your foot in CM. Its 120% more accurate than US sizing. May or may not have a near new set of Track 700's that I could sell.
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Any registration limitations? Required minimum FIS/USSA rank, world cup competitor, ect ect?
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Hey all,
Time for a new full face helmet. I would like to get a Giro Remedy but have a question.
Does anyone know the difference between the S and the bike models? Is it just the amount of vents????
Thanks!
Edit: I forgot to add, I want to use it for both snowboarding and mountainbiking.
Mud,
If you are going to be using it for both, definetely the bike model. You'll sacrifice a bit of warmth but you will thank yourself in the summer.
Dunno about your price range, but the Troy Lee Designs D2/D3 are the word luxury for your face. Take a look if $250-550 isnt bad.
$.02
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There are no standards but there is crude vs. precise.
Crude could be an L shaped piece of square/ round bar flippe upside down and pounded into the snow.
Precise, take a look at FIS start gates.
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I'm just wondering where Alpine racing is going in North America. To me it seems stagnet and going no where. Can someone inlighten me on where it might be going. I follow it as much as possible, but I find myself more interested in watching SBX. I just looked at the US Snowboard Team and see that they have only 2 members listed and no B team as do the rest.
Check out USASA and USSA. Both alive and have many planned alpine events.
Also fis-ski.com, look at the snowboard calendar. Its all there, just need to know where to look.
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They have the start list, but nothing as far as results ?
What about conditions ? Copper Mtn webcams look nice.
Copper's gotten (yes gotten) about 15" of dry pow in the last few days. Taking from the past youd be looking at a perfect first run and then a wickedly chopped up second run. Hate to be last in the order.
Staying smart second run will be key tomorrow as I'm sure it was today.
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see shakeweight.com
Golden.
Honestly it is pretty much a cheap ripoff of the Palmer PLS system.
Might be interesting to try, but I wouldnt pay more than $20 for it, all it is is a block of plastic.
Poor color choice too.
Plate System Comparison?
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One thing I noticed with the two was that with the actual plate itself, Sean's plate does not flex by hand. I can get Fin's to flex a bit, and about a 1/4" when bolted down to it on the board.
Don't know if thats what you mean Jack, but definetely agree with the rest of it.