Corran

Burton design team has contacted me and we've begun discussions.

Talking to Burton designer this week, and will let you know Corran

Ahhh cool...

What is it?

I hope so too

I'l have my wing swallow Tuesday... Can't wait. I've been riding this modified o sin

I'm thinking these with a set Of Raichle ski boot tongues placed between the liner and outer shell would stiffen them up nicely...

Got it directly from. MOSS

Barryj you can mail me at Corranisadd at gmail

Clearly compromised as a quick google search also shows countless people Having the same Problems

Clearly not. Took 1 min to see they would Not work and given other reports here the problem. Is endemic

Anyone know much about these? How stiff are they compared to say the burton driver x? Any issues with boots or binding system?

This is the email I sent burton Hi. Please forward this onto your RnD department. I recently got a pair of step on for my wife. First key me congratulate you on taking the time to develop a new step in system... Something which as traditionally a hard booter had kept me away from soft boot riding. As usual from Burton the product is slick and refined. I'm afraid however that this is where the compliments end. There are two major design flaws in the design, both of which compound into one large problem beyond the smaller effects of the two independent issues. The alarming first issues i identified on the living room floor... It wasn't even necessary to take them on the snow. The first problem is that the heel locking system is in the high back and not the base plate. With toe pressure (toe side edging) the boot pulls the high back forward 10 to 15 degrees (as much as half an inch). This on its own is irritating on toe side turns but it also allows the toe locking mechanism to move forward and out of the ideal locking position. The second problem is the base plate foam under the boot is soft. This allows the toe to travel downwards up to a quarter inch with just light pressure. With some force 3/8 inch is possible. This also clearly is going to affect performance. I replaced the foam with hard plastic. However the main issue that I forsaw (again this is just looking at the system in the living room) is that the combined effect moves the toe locking system out of the ideal locking range. I predicted the result of this would be the toe system releasing on a heel side turn after a toe side turn. A brief internet search confirmed exactly that with scores of complaints online of the system releasing on heel side turns. The design flaw was instantly obvious. How this made it past your testing (was it even tested or went straight from concept to production) is baffling. You need to fix this. Someone is going to get seriously hurt when one foot only releases from a binding at high speed or on a dangerous slope. Once more, hats off for the attempt, but execution unfortunately is a failure. There are also other less important design flaws that should be addressed but these two above are the important ones. I hope this email is taken in the positive spirit with which it is intended (Im a designer for a living) and that you can rectify this great concept. Sincerely Corran addison

I just got the Moss wing swallow... Ups managed to loose it so I have not had it for this last dump. Boooo

The principle design flaw is that the heel lock is on the high back and not the base plate. This allows the boot to flex it forward on toe turns. Combined with this is that the foam under the toes is soft and compressses. The combined effct is a forward and down movement of the toes of more than half an inch total travel. This allows the toe locking mechanism to move out of the ideal locking range and it pops out in the next heel side turn. It's a major design flaw and before my wife even had hers on the snow I'd identified it on the living room floor. She's not riding aggressively so it's not a major deal but even so I replaced the foam under the toes with hard plastic and have locked the high back to the base plate. Sucks for transport but it's necessary if you want your feet to stay in the bindings and not have half an inch of boot travel each turn. As usual from Burton, slick looking but non functional. They can't possibly have actually tested this before coming to market. I'd bet it went straight from cad to production. Some of the design mistakes are so painfully obvious.

That's ne

My 4yr old, watching me carving my split tail, wanted the same thing... so I obliged. Much softer tail now - he gets bucked around less, and can turn faster...

you did that too?

Burtons Step on is a great idea, but falls short on many fronts. Without even getting them on the snow I identified two alarming design shortfalls (and one thats just inconvenient) that you'd thing they'd have seen themselves in testing (we assume it was tested). However these are modifications that can be done by yourself. I'll post pix as I get to them. One of these (though not a critical aspect for the system to work) is the release mechanism, requiring you to bend over and grab your ankles like a prison inmate every time you want to get out. So I made a modification that releases the system with barely having to bend over. Tolerances for cord length and pipe length are relatively critical, but its easy enough to do.

Fake wood decking (its a plastic of some sort).

Yeah, but mine work just as well and cost about $5 to make

That Osin is now riding better than it ever did...

When you can't find riser plates anywhere... you make them! I wanted really high plates (1") as I really get my board on edge and even with a wide board and only size 9 feet, I get terrible toe and heel drag... problem solved. And when you have an old board lying around and decide to make your own "surf style" groomer carver...

Zut. Je t'ai menquer.