Guest OCD Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 Thanks guys, I tried the foot in the shell test at home and at the shop and it looks like I do have the room. I am going to change up the toe lift / heel situation and in fact have already changed my set up. I’m using F2 bindings and they suck when it comes to adjusting heal / toe lift, not too many options. I have a block under my front toe and it feels weird. I know a carpet test is not an accurate one but it just feels like there is too much up front. I may be on my local hill tomorrow so I’ll see. I hate change my set up when it’s working for me, aside from the incredible pain and black toe that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tdinardo Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 Thanks guys, I tried the foot in the shell test at home and at the shop and it looks like I do have the room. I am going to change up the toe lift / heel situation and in fact have already changed my set up. I’m using F2 bindings and they suck when it comes to adjusting heal / toe lift, not too many options. I have a block under my front toe and it feels weird. I know a carpet test is not an accurate one but it just feels like there is too much up front. I may be on my local hill tomorrow so I’ll see. I hate change my set up when it’s working for me, aside from the incredible pain and black toe that is. After you have ridden a few runs with the toe lift in, if you don't like it, you can also try it with no lift under the front at all as a test. What works for some may not work for all. The best thing is to try a number of different things, one change at a time, until you find what works well for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Sub Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 or you could fashion smaller lift shims. F2 you get what...its like a centimeter block, no? I remember those feeling odd. yeah, try just heel lift in the back, too. see what happens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rikytheripster Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 definately get back to us. I have lost my front left big toe nail twice and am looking for a solution. i have remoulded my liners with a toe box, stood in the boots without liners, tried riding without socks but still no luck. it feel slike the pressure is cause more by my toe pushing upwards against the boot as opposed to into the end. this got me thinking i might need to adjust the fwd lean on my raichle sb 324's to get my weight more fwd and prevent that painful upward force that i beliebve is from leaning back too much. it could also be a technique issue, maybe when im tryig to squat lower i rock back slightly and push the toe up against the shell? i ride with toe lift up front and heel lift in the rear also. i have narrow feet too.' thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tdinardo Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 definately get back to us. I have lost my front left big toe nail twice and am looking for a solution.i have remoulded my liners with a toe box, stood in the boots without liners, tried riding without socks but still no luck. it feel slike the pressure is cause more by my toe pushing upwards against the boot as opposed to into the end. this got me thinking i might need to adjust the fwd lean on my raichle sb 324's to get my weight more fwd and prevent that painful upward force that i beliebve is from leaning back too much. it could also be a technique issue, maybe when im tryig to squat lower i rock back slightly and push the toe up against the shell? i ride with toe lift up front and heel lift in the rear also. i have narrow feet too.' thoughts? One thing you can try is heel lifts inside the boots. I have to use them because I am hyper-flexible which means I end up overflexing my boots. By raising the heel inside the boot it increases the starting angle and balences me over the board better. Here's how this may apply to your situation. One of the side benefits I found was that it raised my foot up in such a way as to move the location I was putting pressure on the top of my boot from the toe box to the area above the instep. You might find that helpful. It's easy and inexpensive to test. If you don't have a local boot fitter, you can pick them up here for $4.00: http://www.tognar.com/boot_heater_warmer_fitting_dryer_canting_dryers_ski_snowboard.html Might be worth a shot.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Donnelly Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 I discovered my big toe on my front foot got black on heel turns when in walk mode. In walk mode, I had next to no leverage from behind the ankel and the toe was the last point of pressure. Have since locked in the front boot on #3 and no more jamming; rear boot is still in walk mode. Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian barr Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 i know the feeling. Two seasons ago lost bot big toe nails :( . Last season only lost one . The solution from my bootfitter was to punch the toe box above the big toe are. Currently all toes are healthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim W Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 I have some of the worst feet in the world. They are flat and fit in a very small percentage of shoes, boots etc on the market. My toenails have a curve to them and cause massive ingrowns that get worse with snowboarding. I visited the podiatrist last week and we are going to remove them at the end of the season. He said it is a very simple procedure that may cause some discomfort for about 3 days. No more toenails= no more problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian barr Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 naked big toes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tdinardo Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 I have some of the worst feet in the world. They are flat and fit in a very small percentage of shoes, boots etc on the market. My toenails have a curve to them and cause massive ingrowns that get worse with snowboarding. I visited the podiatrist last week and we are going to remove them at the end of the season. He said it is a very simple procedure that may cause some discomfort for about 3 days. No more toenails= no more problems. Hard Core! You'll have to let us know after you get it done if the doc was lying about the recovery time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantheman0177 Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 OK, not wanting to threadjack, but I strongly recommend completely drying feet out after riding and if you get any pain, have a specialist look at it before it's too late. This is what happens when you don't follow your own advice....and invariably your overseas riding trip finishes with a hospital stay and an early flight home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tdinardo Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 OK, not wanting to threadjack, but I strongly recommend completely drying feet out after riding and if you get any pain, have a specialist look at it before it's too late. This is what happens when you don't follow your own advice....and invariably your overseas riding trip finishes with a hospital stay and an early flight home. Dude! What the hell happened to your foot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantheman0177 Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 I was staying in a hostel at Big White a couple of years ago and because you spend all day wearing shoes when you stay in a hostel, my feet never dried out properly and a little bit of tinea turned into a big bout of celulitis (think that is how it is spelled). It got really painful and I thought I had maybe broken my ankle or something so I went to see a doctor before moving on to Whistler and she sent me straight to hospital for IV antibiotics. I was in Vancouver in hospital for 3 days, then got flown home and in hospital in Melbourne for 4 more days. Couldn't walk on it for that entire week and was still popping pills and on light duties two weeks later. Not a pleasant experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tdinardo Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 I was staying in a hostel at Big White a couple of years ago and because you spend all day wearing shoes when you stay in a hostel, my feet never dried out properly and a little bit of tinea turned into a big bout of celulitis (think that is how it is spelled).It got really painful and I thought I had maybe broken my ankle or something so I went to see a doctor before moving on to Whistler and she sent me straight to hospital for IV antibiotics. I was in Vancouver in hospital for 3 days, then got flown home and in hospital in Melbourne for 4 more days. Couldn't walk on it for that entire week and was still popping pills and on light duties two weeks later. Not a pleasant experience. OMG. That's awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfinsmiley Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 Being new to hardboots all I can say is :eek:, Some of you guys are really More Core Division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest OCD Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 I just got back from a day on the mountain w/my new toe lift on the front binding and it was great. I still have a little discomfort but not to the degree previously discussed. I also found that my toe side has improved 100%. Initiation is better and edge hold is not an issue. It only took a few runs to get it dialed. Thanks for the advice. Conditions were icey but I don’t think I have ever had the control on my toe side, it looks like good things do come out of a bad situation after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Sub Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 I just got back from a day on the mountain w/my new toe lift on the front binding and it was great. I still have a little discomfort but not to the degree previously discussed. I also found that my toe side has improved 100%. Initiation is better and edge hold is not an issue. It only took a few runs to get it dialed. Thanks for the advice. Conditions were icey but I don’t think I have ever had the control on my toe side, it looks like good things do come out of a bad situation after all. no more starting block stances! ok...are we talkin toeNAIL removal or TOE removal here? Either trips me out but hell...if I never had to trim my toenails again Id be ok with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carvedog Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 OK, not wanting to threadjack, but I strongly recommend completely drying feet out after riding and if you get any pain, have a specialist look at it before it's too late. This is what happens when you don't follow your own advice....and invariably your overseas riding trip finishes with a hospital stay and an early flight home. Dan - I know you are just trying to impress the ladies with the pictures of your swollen appendages, but after the toe removal bits came up there are no ladies here. So better luck next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantheman0177 Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 Dan - I know you are just trying to impress the ladies with the pictures of your swollen appendages, but after the toe removal bits came up there are no ladies here. So better luck next time. Yes, and it was 10.5 inches long, thick, red, swollen and throbbing.... And the ladies' response would be a simple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jeffro Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 I discovered my big toe on my front foot got black on heel turns when in walk mode. In walk mode, I had next to no leverage from behind the ankel and the toe was the last point of pressure. Have since locked in the front boot on #3 and no more jamming; rear boot is still in walk mode.Pat Pat speaks the truth! I'd lose my front big toe nail roughly 2-3 riding days into each season. It would really hurt for about a week, preventing me from riding, then turn black, and then eventually fall off near the end of the season. Long story short, it was because I have been carving in 'walk' mode, with my upper buckles not too tight, for like 6 seasons. I just got used to the loose feeling. I normally tie my casual / running shoes loose enough to slip on and off without retying, so I didn't think much of it. Using forward lean has improved my heelside carve, and prevents me from lifting 'up' on the tip of my boots with my toe; instead, the force I apply for heelside turns is applied (due to tight buckles and no 'walk' mode) near the bottom of my leg and onto the cuff of the boot. I'm embarassed that I didn't notice this six seasons ago, I think my heelsides would be a lot better today. But you know, live and learn. -Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tim Tuthill Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Pat or anyone else: Why would you ride in walk in the first place? I know guys ride hard boots in the pow in walk. Seems to me that you would know you would slide back and forth, banging your toe and lifting your heel. I had a pair of wide boots that I banged my big toe in. As soon as I got new boots that are narrower, no problems at all. I guess I'm lucky, I learned with a crew that has been at it since the begining of carving in the US. They took the time to help me get get up right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Donnelly Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Tim, I ride front locked and rear in walk mode. I find this offers the flexibility needed to get low. Several riders that you know from Buttermilk ride in the same manner. I used to complain about rear heel lift but it's just how I ride. I have tried to stand flat footed and grab a rail and I just can't do this with out raising my rear heel. Part of the "comfort" zone feel may have come from starting our with the super soft and comfortable Nordica SBH boots? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jeffro Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Pat or anyone else: Why would you ride in walk in the first place? I'm very tall, and my hamstrings are very inflexible, so I suspect my body geometry is a lot different than yours, Tim. I found 'walk' mode made it easier to move from riding very low to the ground (to regulate my center of mass on the edge), to standing almost straight, depending on the conditions and type of carve I was going for. Locked into forward lean, all I can do is carve like mad. I can link turns on the steeps much more gracefully than I could in 'walk', but bumps and powder are a little sketchy, so it's a compromise. -Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbird Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 We use the side cutters for toes, but for the big toe it takes two or even sometimes three tries to sever it completely. Bolt cutters are only good if you catch it right at the joint. Don't forget to post pictures... Blood and Gore is gooooood!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbird Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 Yes, and it was 10.5 inches long, thick, red, swollen and throbbing.... :eek: And the ladies' response would be a simple At least they would respond!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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