scrapster Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Hi All, Does anyone have experience with the newer 07-08 Oxygen Protons (the black and gold ones)? I was looking at a used one in almost pristine condition--but it has virtually no camber Is this its natural state, or do they lose their camber quickly? (My Steepwater was made with no camber, and it was great! But I've had Nideckers that lost their camber early and turned into dogs when they did.) Just trying to figure out which scenario I'm looking at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Buggs Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Dude, you gonna meet me on Sunday?? by the time yer done you wont care what board yer on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrapster Posted January 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Hey Bobby, Its looking like Saturday is the day for me :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Buggs Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 What time, I have a basket ball game I have to coach in the afternoon. I could meet you for a couple hours in the Am but would need to get on the snow right away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 You looked at Ruwi's board? It does have the camber... When all these new Protons arrived, we compared them with few older ones. All the lengths of the new ones had less camber then the old ones. I didn't ride new/old back to back, so I wouldn't know the difference. Logic tells me that if a board is designed with no or little camber it is fine like that. When it is designed with the camber and then lost most of it, it starts to suck, as one of the design components is missing, plus it probably means that the core, or even laminate, is "tired". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrapster Posted January 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Thanks BlueB! That's the info I was looking for. Ruwi sent me some pics of the board and I was a little surprised at how low the camber was (especially given how nice the thing looks.) I tend to agree with you--if it was designed that way, it should be fine. Did you have a chance to try out any of the new boards? I have good potential deals on both new and old versions--and new is always nice;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Scooby rode the new 172 and 178. He says that the 172 is a bit easier to ride then his older 172 and he raves about 178. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arneburner Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 I have a 172 with about 20 days on it. With the weight of the bindings (old Catek world cup) pushing down on it, there is only about 1/4 inch of camber. It rides great and has a lot of life. Arneburner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrapster Posted January 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Arneburner--old or newer Proton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrapster Posted January 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Here' the camber of the board in question. Though its starting to sound like this is normal for this model year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.T. Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Arneburner--old or newer Proton? Arne is riding a newer Proton (black/gold/white) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Here' the camber of the board in question. Though its starting to sound like this is normal for this model year. It has more camber than that picture shows. With the camera low down on the side of the board, the flash casts shadow way under the board and brightens/flattens the surface in front and closer under. Thus, the camber apeares smaller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 On the 2nd look, it seems that he didn't use the flash, but light source is somwhere behind, as a bit of drop shadow of the camera itself is on the surface in the fore plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruwi Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 I have a 172 with about 20 days on it. With the weight of the bindings (old Catek world cup) pushing down on it, there is only about 1/4 inch of camber.It rides great and has a lot of life. Arneburner I actually measured also mine last night and 1/4 " camber is what I measured as well. I didn't check it before and just compared it with my KR170C what a big difference. Boris, Thanks, I took the photo in a hurry after a sucky teaching night at Grouse around 1230 midnight. Was so in a hurry to mail the photo and go to bed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrapster Posted January 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Thanks everybody for helping me sort this out! It sounds like I'm going to have some fun, whatever I decide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arneburner Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 As Dustin said, it is the same year. Here is the photo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave ESPI Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Dude, you gonna meet me on Sunday?? by the time yer done you wont care what board yer on. Just keep a head on a swivel and before turning uphill, check for Straightliner Ski race Coaches ;0 * back-boards are no fun I saw that guy this past week, he recovered OK. had reconstructive surgery, and is still a skier... but was much more respectfull in giving space and distance of the "carvers" downhill from him this time last weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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