jcaple Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Hi, Looking for some advice on my Sword setup. I'm 6'3 and around 220 Firstly, the folks over at Extreme Craving suggest the following Stance width 52 from middle Front angle 53 Back angle 46.5 Been riding that exact setup for two days and I'm really struggling, just feels wrong, and being ejected out of turns, backside turns just skid, I have no doubt that my technique could be better as this is only my second season...... So anyone else out there riding a Sword, can you post the setup you ride Appreciate your feedback, Justin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Your setup sounds good. Please read basic concept how to ride Swoard, that might help ;) My quess is that you dont ride board from center, based on your description i think you move (too much) your balance from front to back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeho730 Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 168S 5'6" 140lbs 45cm 54/49 (no cant/lift) Been with the swoard for 2 seasons, took me almost 3 months to carve on the frontside (toeside). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
west carven Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 howdy leeho730 do you feel that your board is too soft for your weight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave ESPI Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Which length and stiffness do you have? How big are your feet? and what bindings? COMEDY REPLY: Shave your legs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeho730 Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 I've been using 168 medium... and felt the board was a bit stiff for me. I have been using the soft swoard for only one day, but sure it was quite bendy and I liked it. I'm not an aggressive carver and so I usually let the board bend by itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCrobar Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Hello Jcaple I don’t have any specific set up advise, just a bit of insight on the long and sometimes frustrating journey required to find the ‘sweet’ spot with regards to stance width, stance angles, forward lean on your BTS, system, how tight you set your toe bails, what tongues are used (hard or soft) in your boots, is the flexibility of your boots affected by the cold, the amount of splay between front and back foot, the bias or distance your heel and toe are from the boards’ edge … etc, etc, etc!!! I wish it was as simple as soft boots where you slap the bindings on the board and go, OK maybe that is not that easy, but it is way easier than setting up and Apline board. Oh, it doesn’t matter whether you EC, race carve, what ever, the process is a process that takes A LOT of time and effort! But it is worth the effort once you find your personal set up that makes the board feel like it is an extension of your body. Change one variable at a time and experiment. It is AMAZING how a cm here and a degree there and a softer spring there can make such a huge difference! Enjoy the experimenting, the harder the journey the more satisfying the rewards. Cheers Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nils Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Justin, The pb you are noticing are mostly due to one thing: lack of rotation during the turns. Try to read carefully the how to methods on the website. Boots, bindings, stance set up do have their importance, but not as much as rotation which is number one thing to pick up: - initiate the turn with upper body ( shoulders ) - try to avoid using arms ( try to imagine them velcroed to the legs) - "lock" torso to lower body ( in order to avoid counter rotations and to transfer shoulder moves to board) - practice at lower speeds on skidded turns ( see the simple vids of the first steps..), avoid going downhill which will make you gain too much speed: see on the vids as riders are going uphill to control speed, keep it constant whatever the steepness is - ride on two feet ( as pokkis said) instead of front leg to back leg balance such as other technique usually do.. Its really a mental thing: once you got it, you'll know where to progress. Good luck :), it took me 2 seasons to understand the " no arm flapping" part :) Nils Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tramp Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 - initiate the turn with upper body ( shoulders ) and what about Basic position "Be aware of your gravity center in the region of your hips, because all your movements should start from here." hm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nils Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 its about the same result: if you lock at hips, and initiate from shoulders, the hips follow :) If you look carefully at the slow motions in the vids, you can see it goes from up to down... :) Nils Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tramp Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 oh! Then, I think, you have rewrite "Technique" with your comments! ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcaple Posted January 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Thanks for all your input and taking the time to reply!!, I'll try changing my style and update after today's session..... Cheers Justin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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