piciu Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 Hi, i've a question to VIST users. What determines which of 3 possible fixing scenarios one should go for? Does it depend on board lenght or rider weight? What are the differences between each of the fixing types for board performance? any help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 What you refer with 3 fixing scenarios? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piciu Posted January 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 What you refer with 3 fixing scenarios? you can fix still one of 3 mounting points of the plate: 1. rear bindings inserts on the board 2. central holes (drilled in board or pre asembled i.e. some kesslers and some new SG) 3. rear bindings inserts on the board and let the plate "float" on the 2 other mounting points when the board bends. As of manufacturer the choice is rider preferences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 I dont think that you can insert it only from rear or front, that plastic is nuch too soft to hold. I think only option is install it from front AND rear plus with center 2 extra inserts. But you perhaps could leave center ones away but i dont think that is good idea. My NSr has those 2 extra inserts and is installed from all 3 places and it floats nicely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piciu Posted January 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 we misundertodd each other, i alway mount all the holes/inserts: 1. 4 screws rear 2. 4 screws front 3. 2 screws central so there are always 3 mounting points/10 screws. The options i have is to determine one of the points to mount it still using the provided oval pads under the srews. The following 2 mounting points are fixed with the round pads under each screw, so they can "float", since all the mounting holes in a plate are always oval. Simply, my question was which point (this can only be one) to choose for the oval pads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 OK now i got it Mine are mounted to most outer ones to get long enough stance, i use 54-55 stance. http://www.ojankaivajat.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/nsrbm.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piciu Posted January 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 ok :) but where did you mount with the oval pads: - frot foot - rear foot - central ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 Now i dont understand again question did you looked my picyure attached Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piciu Posted January 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 yeah, but i'm asking about the mounting the plastic plate to your board: - the plastic squares that are fixed between both plates to attach the whole system to your board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 You mean that they can be set both 2 ways, right? According documents, you can set then so that required insert stance of boards 48cm is for women and 50cm is for men Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piciu Posted January 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 we're close in terms of the distance you can mount it 3 ways: 50, 48 or if you only turn 1 square (either front or rear) 49. but what i'm still asking, where do you let your plate to float on the board, which square is fixed with the oval pads? there's only 1 point allowed for oval pads: front square or rear square or central. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 I never tought that they could be elsewhere than in center :rolleyes: so mine are in center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piciu Posted January 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 I never tought that they could be elsewhere than in center :rolleyes:so mine are in center. oh yes they can... that's whay you received 4 oval pads, not only 2 :) the majority of racers go for rear fixing but front and central are also allowed. i spoke with simon schoch at EC race in Goetschen last December. his suggestion is rear... rear should give the maximum of floating effect, but you might feel it harder to initiate the turn at the begining. but according to simion, this will benefit once you get used to. The question i'm addresing is to get the riders opinion on different mounting scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 I need to do some testing, thanks for hint ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piciu Posted January 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 You welcome :) So, if there's anybody out there who can share his opinion on the different VIST mounting riding expirience, please submit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piciu Posted January 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 I need to do some testing, thanks for hint ;) if you really gonna try a diferent mounting, please share your opinion on rear vs. central afterwards. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 I certainly will test, but due switching setting is pia, it might take quite long before i can give any feedback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterGold Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 I know that a lot of racers (almost all ...) use such plates, but what about ´freecarving´. What is the benefit? Why do you use the plate? And why do many people who are not riding between gates not use them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 Me, i just want to see and test different things, and usually what racers do makes also lot's sense for carving, atleast for me :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterGold Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 That is exactly the reason why I was asking. Racers need to be very effective, so I´m also curious about such things. Have you tried your board with and without the plate? Differences? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Just got my new NSR few weeks ago and i have had no time yet to compare test yet. Specially cause taking vist away and put it back takes some effort, same applies to testing these settings above. But looks like next week i will be testing NSR without Vist due i broke my Vist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterGold Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Ok, thank you. Can you tell me what advantages the plate has for you? And maybe disadvantages? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Are you coming for ECS to Zinal? You could test Vist there, atleast if i get replacement part for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterGold Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 That is a very nice offer, but I can´t make Zinal this year. Do you use the plate to get more pressure on the edges or more dampening or more leverage or any other reasons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 For me edge pressure and curiosity of whole plate system :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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